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One night when he was holding me,he started touch my orivae parts. Over time, he taught me to tough and play with his, it felt very strange, scary and a little good too. He told me it was ok, that this mearis he reality loves me. This wend on for several months. He told me. “This is our special secret.”
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Yeah, well, I’d like to get tough on HIS private parts…frikin’ perv!!
I’m a social worker- I SWEAR this is copied from a book for kids who were molested, I just can’t remember which one. But why on earth would anyone think that copying a paragraph from this book onto a t-shirt would be a GOOD idea?
Yes, as a psychologist who used to work with victims of child sexual abuse, this text seems very familiar to me, but I don’t happen to have any of those books handy. As far as making funny with this one, I think y’all will understand if I sit this one out. I haven’t done that kind of work for two years, but I’m literally shaking and not far from tears.
*nods*
It’s been an hour since first reading this picture, and I’ve still got nausea and chills.
*hopes the noon picture isn’t so heavy*
Oh shut up.
I see it took you over an hour to come up with that clever and unique response. I suppose we’ll see a whole paragraph from you in a week or two.
who cares!
i want 2 know y any pis that relate to talking about sex/homo/etc. like this always get more discussion than cute little lolcats
really
Are you effin serious? What the heck is there to say about a stupid cat? The fact that it is cute, is most likely a given. There is actually something to discuss about controversial pictures like this one. Horrible events/news/pictures/ and comments will always get more discussion than a cute cat doing some stupid pose and captioned with some unfunny comment usually written with horrible grammar and spelling. That is human nature for you, and you can anyone who works in media. They will agree with me.
>you can anyone who works in media. they will agree with me.
here, here!!!
Poor grammer & spelling on cat pictures is there on purpose, it is not due to the lack of interlect of the person submitting the photo. I prefer a bit of a giggle sometimes, being constantly serious can’t be good for your mental health
If anything, the reverse is true. Whilst it relies heavily on English phonetics and common typographic errors, LOLspeek, in having its own spellings and grammar, fulfills the requirements for being a new language in its own right. People who complain about LOLspeek are just exposing their own laziness and/or ignorance in not being prepared to learn an extra language.
PLZ to be sayin tat in LOLspeak?
“due to the lack of interlect ”
Yees, yees, sum peopul jus don’t have teh interlect reqwired
It appears to be from a book called “Alfie’s Home” by Richard Cohen. The story is that a pedophile uncle turns a kid gay, and it’s up to the church to cure him. The tee shirt quote is about “Uncle Pete”‘s activities. I don’t know which is more disturbing: the tee shirt, the children’s book, or the not-so-hidden message.
http://www.amazon.com/Alfies-Home-Richard-Cohen/dp/0963705806/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247847659&sr=8-1
http://freestudents.blogspot.com/2007/08/this-is-what-religious-right-calls.html
Since when could anything “turn” someone gay… What a scary book.
Anyway…
This shirt is the most epic engrish stuff up in history!
Makes me wanna tell people to think twice about getting a rubbish Asian language tattoo.
There is NO evidence whatsoever that childhood sexual abuse “turns” anyone gay (or straight). This issue has been thoroughly researched and sexual orientation is unrelated to abuse. There is also no credible evidence, in my opinion, that sexual orientation can be changed by any therapy. There are some therapists who claim that, but I have not seen a single good research study demonstrating success in that regard. It literally seems to be wired into the brain, most likely prenatally.
You’re arguing against religion. The same people who think a magic man controls us all.
Reading the actual book that this t-shirt was lifted from, there is absolutely nothing about religion in it. There is also nothing in the book about “turning” anyone gay, just that the child who was molested was conflicted as a teen, which most assuredly happens. So be careful, your own biases are showing.
Towards the end, Alfie exhibits homosexual behavior. He goes to therapy, and the therapist basically says that Alfie is gay because he was molested and his father didn’t hug him enough. Once he gets therapy, he is “cured” of his homosexuality.
These theories of the origin of homosexuality, such as that it was caused by abuse, or by distant fathers and overbearing mothers, were popular 30+ years ago. Research since then has thoroughly discredited them. Homosexuality, as well as most forms of transgenderism, seem to be wired into the brain, probably as a result of prenatal events. I literally know of no credible research or any therapists who seem to know what they’re doing who claim they can “cure” homosexuality. Besides that, homosexuality is no longer classified as a mental illness by the American Psychiatric Association or the American Psychological Association.
You’re preaching to the choir, JohnB. I’m just recounting the events of the storybook designed for children. Link.
There are clearly some non-choir members here, or if they are in the choir, they’re singing a different tune! We even have one post citing NAMBLA, the “North American Man-Boy Love Association” as a reference, when NAMBLA is composed of pedophiles who want to convince society that it is normal and natural for boys to have sexual experiences with adult males, and that this constitutes love! My frustration is that I’ve been atttempting to raise awareness of the extent of the problem and the truth about it for over 30 years, and it seems we have made little headway.
It’s wired to the brain, but it’s not a mental illness. Sure, that makes sense. Just like how those people who have a wild desire to remove various parts of their bodies aren’t mentally ill, they just “have something wrong with their brain.” Ah, political correctness. The NEW Engrish!
So, by your definition, all of your personality traits (good and bad) are a result of mental illness, what with them being wired to your brain.
Pretty much ever part of who you are is wired into your brain. That is why when one is brain dead they aren’t the saavy talkative person they once were. Your preference for movies is not a mental disorder, nor your emotions, and so on. Being wired to the brain does not a mental disorder make. If you don’t believe this, take a look at the number of mental injuries where afterwards the patient was a completely different person from who they had been before because something in the brain wiring changed.
a person loves another person of the same sex. its still love its still loving a person why does their sex change anything. the people who want to remove parts of their body that is selfharm and seen as the brain normally trys to self preserve then yes i think that there is something wrong with their brain
Hey wtf were not saying that being gay is wrong. Being a phedophile is.
he said that being gay was a mental illness
It’s written by a “Christ Heals Homosexuality” proponent and is used as a tool in the summer camps people send their young gay boys to in order to cure them. Just so you know.
Do these people have an explanation for gay clergy (of either or both sexes)?
The sects that view homosexuality as a “sinful lifestyle” that can be healed by Christ do not allow openly gay clergy.
God exists but He doesn’t control us. He gave us Free Will.
I wish people would grow up and get over themselves. Even plant DNA is too complex to have come about by random chance.
God is real, grow up and get over yourself.
And yes, you cannot turn someone homosexual or cure them, however you CAN make a child so confused they THINK they’re a homosexual. The ones who are cured are the ones who were straight all along and just confused because of what a pedophile did to them.
lolz
hes right, you’re wrong.
Well, he’s right in the 2nd and 4th paragraphs.
There is no proof that any god exists.
Why is this even a discussion about god? God is never mentioned in the shirt or the book it’s quoted from.
You’re blind, the proof is all around you. This universe could not just come into being on its own. It’s not some huge cosmic accident. It itself is the proof of God.
Yeah Shelly, you’re blind because you can’t see the invisible man in the sky that gives us rules we must follow or he’ll send us somewhere bad.
How DARE YOU!?!
Some people’s concept of God is slightly more sophisticated than “an invisible man in the sky that gives us rules that we must follow or he’ll send us somewhere bad.” To dismiss primitive and antiquated notions of a divine being is not a strong argument for atheism.
youre gay
Lol insuating god exists.
Moron.
God is almost definately NOT real, however, and doesn’t someone’s perception on their own sexuality define it? I mean, that’s a pretty blanket statement. You could say that about anything. ‘He just thinks he likes burgers with fries, but he’s just confused’.
Sounds way too Freudian to even be discussed. How can you tell if someone is confused or if they know? Or are they all confused?
It’s not hard to imagine that if one went through severe trauma they could be confused.
EVEN plant DNA?! speciesist.
really chris… magic man? your lame. have you even read the bible? you cant say anything untill you have.
I am an atheist and I have read the entire bible.
The old testament is one of the most disturbing tales I’ve read in my life. And as for the new testament, What is in there that convinces people that god exists?
That isn’t rhetorical question, I really am looking for an explanation of this phenomenon.
My personal opinion is that one should not be convinced that God exists unless one has a personal experience of contact with such a Being. A more prosaic approach is attributed to Pascal, I believe, in which he says something like, if I believe in God and God doesn’t exist, well then I’ll die and that will be the end, and in the meantime I’ve had a belief that has given me comfort. If I don’t believe in God and pay no attention to Him and then find myself in an afterlife, I’m probably at a real disadvantage. But no, I don’t believe the Bible is intended to convince anyone of anything (and congrats on getting all the way through; I did it myself but was nearly done in by the Book of Numbers), but rather for the edification of someone who already believes.
Religion =/= Christianity. Buddhism lacks a God at all, and the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster has exactly the sort of deity you’d expect, not a man.
Please, learn a little more about what you’re attacking, or at least be a little less general.
My brother in law is gay, and suffered sexual abuse from a male relative when he was younger. I’m not saying this is proof that the two are related though…
I’m gay and was never sexually molested by anyone. Not that this is relevant to anything.
Same here. I’m seeing a lot of “In-The-Middle” ground relating to what’s going on here…
And I was sexually molested (by a man and two women, separate cases) and am straight.
if zero is normal, 0+1=1 and 1-1=0, does it not?
theres probably no connection but sometimes there is. if they think that theyre gay but are desturbed or very unhappy when they are intermate with another male than this could mean tht they are just confused it should just feel natural and make tham happy
Well, I’m not gay and was not molested. I really think that me not being molested is what turned me not gay.
Well some people (unfortunately not just a few) belives that you CAN be “turned Gay” – that it’s like a disease, a virus. And thus, something you can be “cured” from.
This t-shirt is disturbing and therefore utter WIN! >:o)
Those tattoos make me want to learn Kanji so I can laugh at them too.
and then you’d get on the Japanese version of the Engrish site and all the Japanese would laugh at you. Safer just to get it on a tshirt.
Ohhh man, this disturbed me, lol.
But my guess is that they took a random English children’s book and used the text not knowing what it meant? Maybe they didn’t look at the pictures in the book.. ahhaa. Or maybe they just had the text…
I like to hope that people are not sick enough to put this willingly on a shirt, coz that’s….
I have heard this text before too… I think it was used in another book because I’ve never heard of Alfie’s Home.
When i was in china they sold all types of stuff that had random english words, swears and just random letters on shirts, backpacks and shoes and stuff. These were all sold in the malls and stuff (aka legit stores). Saw a little boy running around with a shirt that said “i am a pretty little cowgirl”. People over there just think it is cool to wear crap with english writing even when they dont know what i means!
thanks for the link
I was like ~.~ wow when reading this
Yes, this is from a book. I dont know what its called, but it about a
boy who didn’t spend much time with his parents, then got taken in by his uncle pete. And Uncle pete did… Horrid stuff.
yes, as a completely normal person I see this kind of text all the time
You know, in general it seems like it was a positive experience from what the kid was saying. Its only society that tells the kid that something bad happened
Apparently, you fail at understanding the point of this site.
Apparently, you are new here or you do not read. I have been all about the LOLZ since I have been here. But I have no LOLZ to offer with this item. None.
*hands JohnB some LOLZ*
Thanks. I have some left from several of the other pictures, too.
Offer plz?
There are plenty of things on these sites I don’t find funny. But, you will not find me whining about how because I don’t like it, it is not funny and/or should be taken down because it is some how offensive. Want to know what I find offensive? YOU and people like you how try to foist their hang-ups on everyone else.
So believing that children should not be sexually victimized by adults is a “hang-up”? Then let’s hear it for hang-ups!!! I have not told anyone to take anything down. I am, instead, taking the opportunity to tell any people who will listen the facts of an issue that probably has more impact on the mental health of people in this country than any other, perhaps save substance abuse. If that spoils your fun, yukking away at hilarious things like four-year-old girls tricked into performing fellatio upon their grandfathers, well then I’m sorry. There are, sad to say, plenty of internet sites that offer that sort of entertainment. I’m sure you’ll be welcomed!
Seriously?
I don’t think anyone here finds child molestation funny. It’s a stupid shirt, not a social issue.
Lighten up.
Not saying I really do, because child molestation is JUST WRONG, but what would you say if I said I did?
I would say “stop it.”
Really? I thought you would go on a long speech about how it’s wrong.
Lawl. What gave you that indication?
I’m not the one trying to preach to people what they should and shouldn’t find funny.
But, like I said, the majority of people who see this don’t laugh because they find sexual abuse funny. They laugh because some dumbass put something so ironically unfunny on a shirt.
Anyone who uses the phrase “lighten up” for any reason doesn’t deserve to have his or her opinion listened to or respected.
Riiiiiiiiiight.
And anyone who arbitrarily criticizes someone else for using an innocuous phrase has the IQ of a gnat.
Look, I can be a troll too!
My opinion is that Blurgle shouldn’t have an opinion and should also lighten up.
Thank you Kyle, for that demonstration.
Blurgle, I assume that covers even people who use “that phrase” in quotes? Of course, I didn’t use it because I didn’t want my opinion to be ignored or disrespected… but it was you who said those who use it should be, and you used it… so I shouldn’t listen to or respect your opinion… but that would be taking heed of your opinion… *head explodes*
How about I molest you and then tell you to lighten up, douchebag? There is NOTHING funny about child molestation and it is NOT to be taken lightly. If I didn’t know any better (and so far I don’t) judging by your casual attitude toward child molestation I would say that you yourself are a child molester.
You have died of beatenwithboardswithnailsinthemitis.
You never put nails in a board’s mitis! That’s just sick!
Redneck, maybe you should take some reading comprehension classes and then look at my comment again.
I said there was nothing funny about child molestation. The humor is derived from someone’s ignorance in having placed that disturbing text on a shirt. It isn’t derived from the text itself. Is that too difficult for you to understand?
I don’t care if someone has a negative reaction to this photo or not. I can completely understand if people do. The only thing that bothers me is when people start getting angry at others for having a dark sense of humor. Give me a break.
And by the way, since you’re going around randomly accusing people you don’t know if being a child molester, maybe you should stop and take a look at your own violent, nasty comments.
I like swords
I like Javalins.
I like s words.
I have a hard on.
Hard on- apply directly to youe p3nis
Everything is to be taken lightly, ESPECIALLY the things people say not to take lightly.
…so I hurd you were turning 13
With a name like Redneck Rebel it’s not hard to think you have experience as a molester so don’t be pointing fingers to shift the attention away from what you have done and may very well still be doing. And yes it is very funny someone would put this on a shirt! Just reading how worked up some people are makes it all that much more funny!
How about I pin you down and molest you, and THEN lighten up? The fact that you take child molestation so lightly says to me that you are most likely a child molester yourself.
Maybe Semantic isn’t a child.
seeing how he is trying to specifically articulate his point, and doing so succesfully, while you are violently commenting and suggesting to rape him, id say youre much more likely to be arrested on those charges then he is.
im sorry if the issue is so personally offensive to you, and i hope youve sought counseling throughout the years. But maybe its time for communication 101 now.
this is not your personal pedastool to stop child abuse.
its a rediculously inappropriate shirt picture comment box.
and he said he thought it was funny the shirt existed because of how contrastuously aweful child abuse it.
If you’re taking Communication 101, perhaps you should look into the words you apparently create on the spot: pedastool? rediculously? Aweful? And my favorite, contrastuously.
Now I thought pedastool was deliberate, and it made me laugh, sort of a comment on poor net spelling and grammar and also a play on the American spelling ‘pedophile’. Maybe I was optimistic, but I still chuckled
you can spell, awesome! You should go to prison and research your comments. you will find that although not completely wrong you are slightly misinformed prison isn’t like what they show on OZ. There is a hiearchy but its broken into many castes. Im not going to give you a class go look the sh*t up before you start spouting. at least be informed Not everyone in prison is trying to kill someone who was a bigger d’bag than they were as some kind of karma retribution.
I have, in fact, visited many prisons, everything from county jails to maximum security state pens and even one death row. I have visited most often to evaluate inmates, but for plenty of other reasons, also. I spent a full day at one prison observing their secksual offender treatment program. Most of the offenders I treated had also done stints in prison before I got to them, so I got to hear their experiences. When child secksual offenders are in admin seg, or if no one knows what they’re there for, it’s not necessarily worse than usual, which is never very good. (I’ve never had to do time myself, thank God, but I never saw a prison I wanted to stay in.) But otherwise, it’s a tough way to do time. One fellow I saw for years was a meek, quiet fellow who’d had one eye literally gouged out after that they segregated him), and ironically he developed macular degeneration in the other one when he got out, so he went blind. No, I’d say most people in prison are just trying to find some way to survive it and get through it. But there are people with other agendas that make it difficult for the rest. Sorry to disappoint you, but just because I happen to be literate and articulate does not mean I am lacking in real-world experience.
Sir, I would like to see you try to pin down a child molester. We are a slippery lot!
Love the threat though, “Let’s molest that child molester!” >.<
Child molesters are a whole lot more slippery after we’ve finished with them! Funny stuff, blood.
I’m sure people will be glad to know that child molesters do tend to have a rough time in prison, and often have to be placed in isolation. They are considered the lowest of the low in the prison hierarchy.
good.
I’m sorry, but I definitely find childhood molestation hilarious, provided it’s happening to someone other than myself : P
Look up the word “empathy.” It is a normal component of the human psyche.
TROLLWIN! i love you.
No, the hang-up is thinking anything even remotely mentioning child molestation is supporting child molestation then over-reacting to a t-shirt that DOESN’T EVEN SUPPORT CHILD MOLESATION. You, in your infinite offensensitive have taken a t-shirt with an inappropriate quote on it and turned it in to supporting child molestation. Congratulations, you are an ass. Now, stop tricking your four-year-old granddaughter.
I like swords. . .
Do you like swords through the head?
Oh, I see. A t-shirt advocating child sexual abuse is bad, but a t-shirt describing sexual abuse, with a cute little child-friendly picture on it, is perfectly okay. My mistake! How foolish of me. I’m going to go shopping now and see if I can find a t-shirt that vividly describes people being gassed to death at Auschwitz. That’ll make a great conversation starter.
OMG! Both sides have strong arguments! This WILL end in total madness.
If you find one, let me know where to get one, i would love to have one of those t-shirts.:P
Wait a minute nobody said anything about felllatiating anybody till you brought it up. is that some kind of Fruedian slip perhaps?
here here JohnB. I could start a whole rant here in agreement with your statement involving the way the media and fashion industry are also slowly corrupting the American nation (and others) into pedophiles, but I think it’s quite obvious.
I wonder if you would be so supportive of this sick post if you had been or had a close loved one who had been molested as a child?
Its like making fun, or enjoying others misery…I don’t understand it, or the people who think the worst ill of the world is being denied expression of whatever filth they wish to spew.
You need to check yourself, and question your values and priorities.
This is nothing to joke about.
This shirt wasn’t posted as an endorsement for pedophilia, it was posted as an example of a bad translation/misunderstanding. I actually was molested as a child and I am able to keep the two aspects separated. It’s the form that is funny, not the content. The context is key here people…after all, is this a serious site with hard-hitting investigations into the social problems of today. Back to the lolz.
Half this site is dedicated to making fun of and/or enjoying other people’s misery.
You need to check yourself and go die in a fire.
You have an amazing view of life, if you think this site is devoted to making fun of people and enjoying other people’s misery. You must be quite pleasant to hang out with. Too bad most of your friends are incarcerated.
shut up.
I didn’t agree with what you said at first. However, as a survivor, this last paragraph gave me hope. I always hated people who thought they were amazing because they were “helping” me, but had never gone through it themselves. Thanks for helping me define this.
As someone else who has gone through these issues I find it offensive when people ignore the issue. I would rather see people jump to a child’s defense rather then to sit by and do nothing, or worse to laugh at it. Yes it is funny people walk around wearing shirts that they don’t know what their shirt says, the problem being that it is a serious issue on this shirt in particular. Also I would like to point out, with an issue this big, the person walking around with this shirt on most likely got his rear handed to him on the street as well.
It is the ignorant and narrow mind that thinks because they don’t find something funny, that it is not funny.
Open your mind to the possibility, JohnB that others may find something else in this funny, that we aren’t laughing at the suffering of children, but the stupidity of a foreign person who didn’t check what they were putting on a shirt. And the spectacular manner with which they failed, that is the beauty of Engrish. (and all people speaking any language are guilty of hilarious mistranslation…)
You’re preaching, you aren’t teaching.
Well, if I am preaching I have a license to do so, since I am an ordained minister. But I am not putting people down for finding this funny. I expressly said so in one of my posts. I’m simply trying to show why I, and many people whose lives have been touched by sexual abuse, won’t find it funny. This “mistranslation” was actually quite close to the original material, so whatever yucks you get out of it are not due to the mistranslation, which is what makes Engrish tick.
That explains EVERYTHING.
the book is Identical by ellen Hopkins
its Alfie’s Home
No sh!t.
It’s a little thing called “Freedom – of – speech”
“”But why on earth would anyone think that copying a paragraph from this book onto a t-shirt would be a GOOD idea?”"
I do agree, the “act” is a sick thing and people should be hung. However, somebody putting something like this on a shirt is far from molesting a child. These people shouldn’t be abused by you because they thought this may have been funny.
cause its funny if ur not so serious
Honestly, to answer your question, the people who make these tshirts have NO IDEA what the words say. Right now it is all the rage in Japan to have stuff printed on your bags, tshirst, jackets, etc, written in English. Most people can’t even read it! You can tell the copyist didn’t know what he was doing when he wrote the word “orivate” for “private” he didn’t catch the stem on the “P” or “mearis” for “means” he thought the “N” in means was “RI” because he is just copying abstract symbols, like if you, not knowing japanes, tried to copy japanese characters. So, honestly, it was just a stupid mistake on some garment manufacturer’s part.
Same reason people think Che Guevara is a fashion statement but not a cold blooded killer. Same reason people think it’s cool to walk around with a Red Star on a Mao cap, even though he starved 7-8 million people. Same reason t-shirts with Charles Manson sell. Hypocrisy. It’s everywhere.
Hi I grew up in foster care, most of my life was spent in social services where I was bounced around like. I was beaten and my sister was molested…but I have a sense of humor, this shirt is funny. Win.
It all made sence when i saw SOUTH KOREA and’MEN”S shirt’
Regardless, that’s REALLY FUNNY!
I WANT THIS SHIRT!!!!
Not perv, pedo! The guy from the shirt is a pedophile. Stop giving us pervs a bad name.
Jessica he’s korean :/
1st?
You have died of dysentery.
Bless your little LOL1 heart.
Dysentry has died of you.
sure. why not?
This is on a dadgum T-shirt?!?!?!? Where these for the Michael Jackson tour? (Yes, I went there. Sorry.)
“Were,” I meant. Not “where.” Sorry for that too.
Perhaps you meant “wear”, as in “Wear these to the Michael Jackson tour”?
Heck, I don’t know what I meant. Every time I try to be funny I end up sabotaging myself in one way or another.
oh how i know that feeling.
Why is everyone arguing about this? this shirt is being worn in a country thousands of miles away. theres a strong possibility that the wearer doesnt even REALIZE what it means. Child abuse is wrong, and NO ONE here has said any differently. Some ppl are going to believe that theres a cure for homosexuality, some dont. for those of you getting your panties in a twist and attacking people about it, take your anger to your local law makers and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Wow. Homosexuality is not equal to child abuse.
Homosexuality is two consenting partners.
Child abuse…. is abuse.
Simple as that.
I HAVE been trying to do something about child abuse for 32 years, including assessment, therapy, court testimony, public education, and abuse prevention efforts. Laws are not the problem. Appropriate laws are already on the books. Attitudes are the biggest problem, as the comments we are getting here show clearly.
The problem are all the pedophiles that work for his majesty god…
if there is a god he should smite them to their graves.
But since there is no god, there is no punishment, the church just sends them to another place.
Now that’s sick, not this t-shirt
Since the dawn of time, people have done horrific things in the name of God. That doesn’t mean God does not exist or that God is responsible. It just means people do horrific things, and look for justification for them.
I think he refers to the priests that mount hidden videocameras in the ladies’ room, or have sex with young boys that come to the church for a safe place to learn about god. Those people should be put in sacks and drowned. Okay, maybe not, but they should be thrown in the filthiest, dirtiest jail around.
There once was a man from Nantucket
Who once tripped on his bucket.
He landed face down
on the back of a clown
and tried not to fucck it.
I went there!
Bah, meter FAIL!
Funny
Dear Lord! Phone the police!
omg wtf
That was my thought.
Abuse you sexual for daddy gay sperm hose please!
And yes, quite disturbing since this is a man’s shirt.
Is it me but does that shiny collar remind you of a nightshirt? Unless it’s just the angle. In which case, a man’t nightshirt with satiny lining. Doubtful. God I hope it’s just the angle.
Proportionally speaking, gay people are LESS likely to sexually abuse children than straights. Child sexual abuse is like r@pe in that while it is by nature a sexual crime, the motivation is usually about power, control, domination, humiliation.
How does that preclude gay people?
I’m sure there are some gays out there who are also motivated by power, control, domination and humiliation to commit these crimes.
It DOESN’T preclude them. I didn’t say gay people never sexually abuse children; I said that they do so less often, proportionally, than straights. This fact is, in itself, of no particular importance, but it is so commonly believed that gay people are more of a menace to children that I feel compelled to make this point.
Stop seriousing. You have some LOLZ. You know you do.
I’m with Alice on this one. Your seriousing is so…serious. I’m gonna go snack on some LOLZ now.
You are too serious. This makes the comments boring. But everyone thinks you are an homofobist. Get out of this one, Houdini.
Sorry for any bad english
Apologies for disregarding the by not completely demolished topic, but I think John, no offence, your real intention doesn’t seem to be that you want to create awareness and fight the evil powers but rather that you are extremely bored with your daily internet hours and know that you’re quite eloquent and strong with arguments, and, therefore smartass around the internet to polish your ego that must have been totured heavily in the past… well u might appreciate this post as I pet you while telling you that you just seem like a pointless douchebag, sorry.
Well, I’m the only one who knows my real intention, and if my intention were to polish my ego, I wouldn’t be doing it here, since the more I say the more I get attacked, as you just illustrated perfectly. And in fact I never get bored with daily life, as I keep quite busy with my job and family. And if I were wanting to “smartass” around the internet, I’d be doing things like calling people “douchebags,” but unlike you I got past the stage of name-calling by middle school.
To quote Bo Burnham, “Squaring numbers is just like women, if they’re under 13 just do ‘em in your head.”
Under 16 Shirley? *
*BTW, I can probably do naturals up to about 25 in my head.
The statistics are cooked because of the definitions. For instance, if a man molests a boy, but is married to a woman, he is counted in the “research” as heterosexual despite the fact that the molestation was homosexual. Show me research that doesn’t fix the numbers with the definitions and then I’ll believe that gay people are less likely to abuse children than straights.
You understand perfectly well why it is counted that way.
Pedophilia is not a sexual orientation. The sexual orientation of a pedophile is classified by the adult characteristics they find attractive and the relationships they would choose to form.
Do you think prisoners in american jails should be counted as homosexual because of prison rape?
But then there are those who choose adult relationships where there is no attraction what-so-ever, it is simply a convenient cover. Yes, I understand perfectly well why the definitions are what they are, because then you can say things like “most molestation is done by heterosexuals” despite the fact that the molestation is homosexual itself.
And yes, the rape in prison is homosexual. It sure isn’t heterosexual. It would be simply idiotic to call it heterosexual.
But it would be even more idiotic to call the prison rapists homosexuals, when the rape the commit has nothing to do with sexual desire and everything to do with power.
It’s the same concept with married men who molest little boys. It’s rarely about the sex and more about the POWER they feel from the act.
There is nothing “cooked” about the definitions, because the fact of the matter is that the gender of the child molested has nothing to do with the adult’s preferences in adult sexual partners. That is because child sexual abuse is, as I said elsewhere, not usually committed because of a sexual attraction to the child, per se, but rather because of the emotional, psychological, and psychiatric factors that cause a person to abuse. Almost all of the adult male child sexual abusers I evaluated who had abused prepubescent boys were not only heterosexual, and often flagrant womanizers at that, but usually had markedly hostile attitudes towards gay men. People do not molest children because the children are sexy. People molest children because their minds are warped.
That’s all a load of bull. Just ask nambla. male-male molestation is homosexual. The definition is purposefully altered so that the research fits a pre-ordained conclusion.
If you take the word of NAMBLA–an organization composed of pedophiles for the purposes of promoting pedophilia–for anything but propaganda, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you. I am quite familiar with this research, having studied it thoroughly since 1971 (a year when, I might note, homosexuality was still regarded as a mental illness). You are entitled to your opinion, but if someone is distorting things to come to a pre-arranged conclusion, it appears to be you.
calvin, you. are. an. ass. stfu b4 u say any more stupid sh*t. please.
Yes. The ACT is homosexual, biologically. The actORS, however, rarely are homosexuals themselves, though.
Lemme guess…you’re straight, and as such, can’t separate the act from the emotion when it comes to gay men, huh?
You realize that girls get molested, too, right? They are, in fact, twice as likely to be molested than boys. And since the majority of child molesters are male, the majority of molestation cases would be heterosexual encounters.
The best figures we have from research suggest that girls are molested somewhat more often than boys, with 25% of girls and 20% of boys being sexually abused before the age of 18. I have a suspicion, however, that boys may be abused at least as often ass girls, because they are more fearful of reporting (for fear of being labeled “gay,” if the abuser is male) and because boys often do not see it as abuse. In evaluating candidates for sexual offender treatment, it is necessary to go over the offender’s sexual history in great detail. Many offenders would deny being sexually abused, and then go on to describe their first sexual encounter, e.g., “Yeah, I was 14, and this 35-year-old friend of my mother showed me a real good time.” That, too, is abuse, although society in general has a tough time realizing that some offenders are women and that voluntary sexual experiences can nonetheless be sexual abuse, when the victim does not have the capacity to consent.
Oh, and because the sexual offender is generally motivated by emotional factors and not sexual preference, some offenders abuse only boys, some only girls, some both, and this has almost nothing to do with the general sexual preference. The age of the victim is usually more important, as offenders have a tendency to abuse children about the same age they were when they were abused, as most were.
Oh, you’re one of *those* loonies. I was starting to wonder what type you were. You left the decimal point out of those figures. Possibly a couple of leading zeros as well.
Yes, I’m one of those “loonies” who actually reads tons of research, pursues graduate degrees, and works in a profession dedicated to helping people, including victims of sexual abuse and child sexual offenders, instead of being an ignorant fool who wants to believe child sexual abuse is very rare and doesn’t bother learning anything about it.
Yeah, he is loony.
That is true, but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
Oh, I don’t know about that. I bet plenty of girls who are abused never say anything to anyone. We’re raised to not make a fuss, to say yes, to get along. (Full disclosure: I was sexually abused as a young girl on two different occasions—ages 7ish and 11ish—by two different men and did not disclose either occurrence, mainly because I didn’t trust my parents to respond appropriately.)
Question: You said, “Proportionally speaking, gay people are LESS likely to sexually abuse children than straights.” Does this mean that the figures you use take into account the fact that such a small percentage of people self-identify as homosexual? That is, if we assume that homosexual people make up 10% of the population, then one would expect that, using my made-up statistic, in 10% of child abuse cases, the perpetrator is homosexual. Is that not the case?
“Proportionally speaking” means that the proportion of people is taken as a starting point and the percentage of those people who molest children is then taken as a percentage of that percentage. So when I say “proportionally speaking, gay people are LESS likely to abuse children than straights,” I mean just that, that the percentage of people who sexually abuse children is lower among gay people than among straights. The tricky part really comes in, though, when you try to define “homosexuality,” because people usually use that word to mean someone who is exclusively attracted to people of their own gender and admit it, which does seem to be about 10% of the male population and 5% of the female population. However, if you look at the percentage of people who have ever had a consensual homosexual experience, the percentages are much higher. Then there are bisexuals, who acknowledge some degree of attraction to both genders, and some of these have roughly equal attraction but some have stronger attraction to one gender. Then there is a different dimension, that of gender identification, what gender a person feels like they are, and this can be surprisingly independent of which gender the person is attracted to. Human sexuality is really quite complex.
But getting back to the first part of your statement, we know that the majority of victims of sexual abuse do not report it. Therefore, when researchers try to figure out how frequently it happens, this is not done on the basis of reported cases, but rather on survey data.
Gay people tend not to be able to have kids, right… they have to go to greater lengths to have them.
So they can’t molest kids that aren’t there.
Also, because of the social stigma that still exists with homosexuality, less homosexuals are in close contact with their families, and siblings who may have children they could have access to. Not true for all homosexuals, but is no doubt a mitigating factor that would not have been included in testing.
Basically, homosexuals tend to have less direct access with children they are related to. Often times, these acts are performed on a relative child.
Doesn’t mean the gay people are less inclined to do it, just less able due to less access.
The statistic is flawed because it states the assumption that the homosexuality is a direct cause of the lower instance of abuse. The potential lack of access to children, paired with less instance of homosexuality in the community would skew the statistic.
The fact is that many gay people do marry and have children. Given the stigma of being gay in Wester society, often people are in denial of being gay until midlife. At that point many do divorce, but some remain married for the sake of the children or because their domestic relationship offers comforts that are not sexual. Other than this, gay people have just as many nieces, nephews, cousins, etc,. as everybody else. The notion that “gays cannot reproduce, so they have to recruit our children” is an idiotic notion often thrown around by the extreme right to convince people to keep their kids away from gay people.
When good research is done, all possible contamniants are explored and either controlled for or considered when reviewing the results. If I state something as a research finding, making a flat statement like that, it is because this particular point has been addressed by numerous studies of good quality and I feel the point has been well established. Nonetheless, there is not a single finding in the field of psychology for which you will not find dissenters who believe the opposite.
Which one gets pregnant?
Gay people often marry a member of the opposite sex. As I just said, many people are in denial and do not realize they are gay until after they are married. Some think that getting married will turn them straight, which of course it doesn’t. Some gays marry as a cover to convince others they aren’t gay.
What???
..ewww. just… ewww.
Someone please tell me this photo was taken in the evidence room of some Japanese police station right before it was destroyed.
That is a special secret. “Shhhh…don’t tell mommy I’m a creepy pedophile.” Wouldn’t want that found out, now would he? Yikes!
Secrecy is part of the universal MO. First it protects the molester from discovery, and then it makes the child feel complicit in keeping the secret.
Top Secret.
That is truly disturbing…
To add to your disturbance, consider the fact that the best estimates we have are that this happens to one out of every four girls and one out of every five boys in the US. And in my professional opinion, those are probably underestimates.
This is the “gift” that keeps on giving. Trust is gone. Childhood memories are few and far between. Self-esteem is a concept to be emulated but rarely felt.
This shirt made me sick.
Absolutely true. And when it happens within families, as it often does, it is even more destructive and tends to be passed down from generation to generation. When sexual abuse is done by a parent, or a parental figure like a stepparent or grandparent, there is nothing more destructive to a human’s psyche than that. Nothing. And I’ve worked with veterans of combat, people who have been burned from head to toe, people who lost their entire immediate family in an accident, plane crash survivors, flood survivors, you name it. And there is nothing–repeat, NOTHING–more destructive to psychological well-being than child sexual abuse by a close family member.
Of course a child abused by a person in a position of power is going to be worse off than any other of those.
The whole foundation of trust and love is skewed in the formative years.
No matter how much headway you think you are making, it is always the constant shadow, the belief systems we set up as children are hard to change.
I mean how many of us are shocked to learn a song lyric we heard as a child and always believed was one way, only to realise it is actually something else. And that is something trivial.
Amen.
Y’all are missing the point completely…. this is not about whether we approve of, or think child molestation is funny, it’s about someone making a shirt that says something horrible on it, but he has no idea because he can’t read it.
Please explain in detail how those numbers were derived.
I do not have the time nor the space to give a “detailed” description of how these numbers were obtained, because that would be a lecture on research methodology in psychology, and while I have taught that several times as a fifteen-week course, I can’t do it in a little box. The short answer is survey data, but the complications have to do with who you survey and how you do it, and why some survey results are more believable than others. If you are really interested, which I doubt, since you have already whined about my daring to find child sexual abuse repulsive, any good introductory psychology text will give you a good basic introduction.
I sorry but these figures just don’t seem true to me. We are not doubting your qualifications just your statistics. If you are want us to believe this then at least quote the peer review journal that this research was published by whom and when. Given your expertise you should at least have this to hand. Whether you have been working in the sector for 6 months or 20 years you can still be taken in by false statistics.
I had to chuckle because I taught statistics classes from the 100 (first-year) level up through 600-level (doctoral student) courses, and the one text I used in every one was Darryl Huff’s “How To Lie With Statistics.” I regard the majority of published research as not worth the paper it’s printed on. As I noted, I have been out of this work for two years, and so I do not have any resources handy. I can point you to an author who literally wrote the book on doing valid sexual abuse assessments (and yes, when the assessment is done badly, false positives can and do result) and is perhaps the leading authority in the US on the treatment of victims and offenders. I had the privilege of having attended several of her workshops, and she is a dynamic woman with a wealth of clinical and research experience, and very obviously knows her stuff. Her name is Jan Hindman, and she publishes a lot of her stuff through AlexAndrea Associates. (She also wrote “A Very Touching Book,” which is the best resource I have ever found for helping parents talk to their kids about “touching trouble,” whether they have been victims or not.) Google her and you can find a treasure trove of information you can trust. None of us wants to believe that so many of our children are sexually abused, which is why most people find those figures hard to believe. As I said previously, I have come to suspect those numbers are actually low, especially for boys.
JohnB:
JohnB:
As a survivor of sexual abuse, I take this issue as seriously as you do. If you see this, I want to thank you for recommending Hindman’s book, I have done a bit of research on it and ended up ordered one for my children and one for my brother’s children. Please know that although I rarely post, I do get the Engrish e-mail and read the comments, and you are a very humourous man who has made me laugh many times–you always have a clever wit and many “LOLZ,” but I agree with you, this topic is not a laughing matter for those of us who are victims of abuse and worked with those victims.
Thank you very kindly. As noted elsewhere, you have my respect and admiration for surviving something I doubt I could have. Keep on healing. Jean-Paul Sartre said, “Freedom is what you do with what’s been done to you.”
I am doubting his ability to derive the statistics because there is a single huge assumption that must be made: How many molestations have not been reported. All one has to do is assume the desired percentage, and boom, you have your desired statistic.
No one researching the issue of prevalence of, or causation of, molestation includes any assumptions regarding those that are not reported. While I have stated elsewhere here that I believe the majority of research studies are not worth the paper they are printed on, no researcher would ever be so stupid as to just assume some random number and include it in the results, and if they did, there is no way that would EVER get published. I have not derived any stastics myself; I am a clinician, not a researcher, although as I stated I have taught statistics and research design and so I know a good study when I see one. The statements I am making as flat statements are the things that have been found consistently by multiple good research studies. You are perfectly entitled to believe whatever you want; before challenging my opinion, though, I would suggest you spend a few decades carefully reviewing the research yourself, as I have, before making some crackpot theory about a flaw in the research that does not exist.
So let me get this straight johnb, your a teacher, by (I have taught that several times as a fifteen-week course) which is standard for most colleges. You said you were an ordained preacher, and a therapist. And yet you have yet to tell us of which schools your earned your degrees from. I think your making these things up as you go along. Plus if you knew anything about research, since that’s the greatest thing apparently to you, you would be able to site your sources for us on this website. Also in most of your arguments, you are creating fallacies within fallacies. I do not believe you have the right to nail these “facts” to people if you can not even make up your mind about what you want to be when you grow up. I hate to knock ya, but you do not create an exemplary argument.
I taught classes as a graduate assistant and an instructor while I was pursuing a PhD in counseling psychology. That is not unusual. I have worked as a therapist most of the years since 1977. My ordination as a minister only came last year, and it came about because I am pursuing a PhD in transpersonal psychology, the spiritual dimension in psychology, and as I am pursuing this degree through a religious institution, ordination is part of the process. My telling you what schools I went to would prove nothing, since if you don’t believe what I’m saying then why wouldn’t I make that up, too? Most of the journals for clinical and research psychology are not available online without a subscription, so what point would there be to my citing something most people couldn’t look up? I lied, and I lied often, when I was a young man, to make myself look better to others; I later lied, and lied often to cover up my alcoholism and addiction. I have reached a point in my life where I have been clean and sober 20 years, and an age (56) where I no longer give a sh!t what people think of me. I am what I am, and I know what I know. So whether you like what I say or not, it’s the truth as I know it, and as I have testified in court many times. And research is not the greatest thing, although we have to turn there to get information; what is the greatest thing is people growing to be more than they were, as I have tried to help others to do and as I have tried to do myself. All the posts I put under this item were exhausting, because I tried my best to express clearly what I meant. And that’s why I haven’t been here in months. Why would I put so much exhaustive effort into lying? To look good to people who don’t even know who I am? To make people stop laughing, when I spend so much time on this site trying to make people laugh? Believe me or don’t, it’s up to you. But what I say is what I said as an expert in the field, in court, many times, and when I said it there, I often got paid well. Here, I give it for free.
Wow man, this is creepy. Why would you wear a shirt like that, even?
The pedobear comment on the top is truly the only funny part of this picture.
I’ll second that. It’s a tradition to sell stuff with other languages on it to jerks.
My classmate had once bought a T-Shirt in Germany with the text
“Ich bin ein Trottel und habe einen winzigen Schwanz.”
When we translated it via babelfish, he ripped it in Superman-style!
Lol, that’s too funny. Of course, you could wear that shirt in America and tell everyone it means whatever you want.
And for the tattoo thing, this is why people need to learn to do their own research not just flipping pages
This reminds me of the wunderful song “Die Eier von Satan” of Tool which in fact is a baking recipe for small hashish containing sugar balls in german. I know of a lot persons thinking there’s some kind of brutal/naziisch/sadist content in this song when it’s like “pre heat the oven on 200 degrees. Bake for around half an hour. And no eggs!”
I can’t make out what Trottel is, but I can piece together the rest of it fairly well… well done.
Google translate fail -.-’ came up with
“I am an idiot and I have a tiny tail.”
Babelfish did one better:
“I am a nincompoop and I have a tiny tail”
ROFL… nincompoop XD
That would actually be kinda cool. I wouldn’t have trashed it.
Ich habe langes Gras und meine Schlange gräbt in Ihrem Mund
Courtesy of Babelfish:
“I have long grass and my queue dig in your mouth”
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That’s hilarious, you people need to stop being so serious all the time.
The Troll sets the bait…and sits back to wait…
Yep. and not a very creative troll, either.
I have occasional bouts of seriousness, but I usually try to keep things here to the level of very silly. But after having tried for over three decades to help literally thousands of children and adults who were victims of child sexual abuse to heal, I just can’t laugh here. Sorry.
This former victim thanks you for a comment well put.
I realize different people find different things funny. I do have a sense of humor about most things, but find myself in a serious mood over this…there was nothing funny about the occurances and the amount of work I had to put into (a) not killing myself, (b) learning to find joy in life, and (c) not being bitter about the years of carefree childhood I lost.
As I tell everyone I have ever known who survived this, I deeply admire you, because I was NOT a victim of sexual abuse myself, and yet I nearly killed myself anyway. So it stands to reason that you have survived something that I probably could not have survived. And unless you’ve done very good work, you won’t believe me, but it is the absolute truth. But the only way to turn this horrible thing into something remotely positive is to realize that the best revenge is living a happy life, and if the opportunity arises to help someone (and believe me, you help someone by just admitting it happened to you, because then another victim doesn’t feel so alone), to do so. The one joke I ever make about this subject is that I have said, numerous times, that if we eliminated child sexual abuse we wouldn’t have any mental health clients! And I make that particular joke because it has an element of truth. It is a slight exaggeration, but only slight. And yet few people even believe this is at all common. Wake up, people! This is happening in your neighborhood, right now!!! And it’s not the creepy-looking dirty laborer who you really have to watch out for; it is just as likely to be one of the pillars of your community! We all teach our kids to be careful around strangers; we also need to teach them to be careful with everyone, even family! We need to teach them about touching, what is good touch and bad touch and secret touch, and to prepare them to tell if anyone ever gives them a “secret touch.” And we need to believe them if they do tell us, and DO something about it. And get them professional help, from somebody who knows what they’re doing, somebody they trust and you trust.
Your comment is amazing. I’m surprised anyone could find this shirt funny, but by your comments on it, it might help people
And, no one is being molested in this shirt. This whole thing is about how inappropriate the shirt and how the shirt exists because someone who knows engrish and not english thought they had found a heart-warming passage in a children’s book to rip off.
The funny part is not what is on the shirt, but HOW it got on the shirt.
You need to remember the world does not revolve around you. This shirt is not about you and you need to get over yourself.
YOU need to remember the world does not revolve around you. You find it funny, fine. No one was molested on this shirt, that we know of, fine. But how many victims of child sexual abuse do you think read this site? How are THEY feeling when they see this here? If I, as someone who has worked with victims, have such an intense reaction, how do you think this affects them? This post has caused real people to feel real pain today, and that’s just a fact. If you can laugh at something that is causing plenty of other people pain, then fine, go ahead and laugh. But that doesn’t say much about you as a human being.
Wah!Wah!Wah! I don’t care how they feel seeing this. No one cares about MY feelings on this site, so why should I care about theirs? You have such an intense reaction because you are an idiot.
I had an intense reaction, as I have stated, because I have spent years treating the victims of child sexual abuse. I have seen, up close, the lifelong suffering that inevitably results. If you have seen the suffering of thousands of children and adults and you don’t have a strong emotional reaction, then you are utterly without compassion. If you want people to care about your feelings, Dave, then perhaps you should express feelings–that is, emotions–rather than making foolish attacks upon people who have a great deal of knowledge about a subject that obviously you know nothing about. I have been accused of many things in my lifetime, some of which I have been guilty of, but being an idiot is not one of them.
If they didn’t take off tour de FAIL on Failblog, they won’t take this down.
“You need to get over yourself”
Funny…the person who did the most damage in my life said things very similar to that…I guess to shift blame/guilt.
This is a site for people from a variety of countries to post their thoughts and feelings. Most of the time, it’s fun and hilarious, but there have been other serious ones.
I know the things I said were my experiences (“world revolving around me”), but I’ve known plenty of others who experienced it too, and what I listed above was, to certain degrees, what they had struggled with in their lives too.
One of the hardest things for people who haven’t been abused themselves to realize is that you just don’t “get over it.” “It’s in the past,” they say. “Just forget it.” And the fondest wish of every abuse victim is that they COULD forget it. But when your most intimate sense of self is violated in a profound way, there is no forgetting it, and you never “get over it” in the sense of it going away completely. But you can learn to have a happy life anyway, although it takes a great deal of courage and hard work. Thank you so much, Jennifer, for sharing, because without that I think this wouldn’t have been at all real to anyone. And thank you all the folks who made a positive response. As I said, I come here for LOLZ, and my initial intent was to just not say anything after my first comment. But I saw things I felt I had to respond to. For those whose good time I interfered with, you have my humble and sincere apologies. But if someone learned something, or if even one child is helped, surely it was worth the sacrifice of a few yucks. There are plenty of those to be had around here!
For crying out loud. Get your own website and/or soapbox. If this topic and picture are such sore points for you, WHY DO YOU KEEP COMING BACK TO THIS PAGE?!
Oh, i know! Because you like listening to the sound of your own fingers typing on the keyboard.
I mean, seriously….no one here agrees with child abuse but we don’t need a monologue on it.
Sadly very true, and it also seems that when you get older you do try to pretend it didn’t happen, or you are willing to admit it openly. Someone I considered a friend didn’t believe me when I told them about it and I think it’s just because he doesn’t want to believe something so horrible could actually happen. I’ve gotten to a point where I can openly admit to it, but it still hurts when people deny that this does indeed happen. Unfortunately, I think, that most people don’t open up and talk about it until it’s too late for anything to be done about it.
That’s fine, don’t laugh if you don’t want to, but stop trying to make others feel bad for finding it funny.
I am NOT trying to make anyone feel bad. I am simply presenting the facts of something I happen to know something about. You decide how you feel about those facts. I know this isn’t what you’re here for. This isn’t what I’m here for. But all that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
make sure to include the horrible circumstances in which those tshirts were fabricated. Im sure a lot of people and children died in poor parts of the world to produce them.
it would be a shame to not include those in your many speeches. And since you seem to have way too much free time on your hands why not go help some kids or something, and if your schedule is empty, lower your prices or volunteer
youve made your point
I happen to have a full time job (at which I am currently working on a Saturday, gratis), am pursuing a degree online, I have a disabled wife, and so I do all the cooking, cleaning, and child transportation, and my ten-year-old daughter who is a difficult child. I am active in 12-step work helping people with recovery programs, which is also simply volunteer work. I also am a minister, when I have a moment to do something ministerial. The notion that I have too much time on my hands is therefore absolutely absurd! And your implication that my writings here have been overkill is belied by the fact that people keep claiming that I’m full of it, am just making this up, and/or have been bamboozled by bad data. But I will refrain from talking about the horrors of the sweatshop because that is an area about which I know little. At the end of the day I have the satisfaction of knowing that not only have I supported my family but I have done something that has helped someone, that not everyone could do. So if you don’t like my “speeches,” don’t read them. Now I have to get back to work…
Yeah, just writing all these comments is a full time job for you it seems.
Oh, and by the way, who cares if you are working for free on a Saturday, you have been on the freakin internet all day! Sheesh.
I am glad that child abuse is your pet topic. No wonder you wanted to kill yourself. Do something constructive about it or move on. N.B – lecturing people on a joke site is not constructive.
You are diluting the point of your diatribe by harping on about it and repeating how knowledgable you are on this matter. it makes me sick. You really must have tickets on yourself.
Liar! You are trying to make people feel bad for finding this shirt funny.
You obviously do not understand me at all. Your comment on my motivation for these posts shoiuld be regarded in that light.
and your a whiney, snotty bratty little bitch who should stfu.
and that was to dave,not JohnB……………stick with it John, let davey whine coz he’s finally heard something that made him think and that just hurts too much.
The hilarious part of this is that someone somewhere decided to print this on a shirt.
They didn’t bother to check at all what any of it meant, and I’m sure anyone wearing it wouldn’t either. How many of us have or see Chinese characters on every piece of cheap-arse home ware item or t-shirt or “asian-esque” poster, buy it and don’t bother to find out what it says.
It’s hilarious because it is indicative of our own ignorance and reflects upon our own society.
I doubt it is meant to be the “content” we are to find funny.
I find it funny in a fail way.
THIS. You win one million interwebs dollars.
thank you! b/c it is funny b/c its a FAIL not b/c of the content.
You gotta wonder where they “copied”/translated THAT text from… eesh.
Uh, not much funny about this. Why was this a good idea for a shirt?
You don’t understand the point of this site, apparently.
..I can’t wait to see what the next engrish pic is. It’s been too long.
Yes, after this one, I’m gonna need a “flesh drink”.
Ewww… found it.
http://guaisaujai.blogspot.com/2007/10/very-disturbing-children-reading-book.html or
http://www.lyzard.com/2007/07/28/and-kids-really-read-this-is-that-normal/
I imagine the designer picked a child’s book at random and well, made a horrible mistake. I’ve seen some of the pictures from “Alfie’s Home” and, taken alone, none of them scream molestation. If I couldn’t read english, I’d probably assume the uncle was an older brother/cousin and they were innocently sharing a bed.
I can’t imagine having to explain the mistake to the designer. Can you imagine how they would feel?
Um… not to state the obvious, but the content of the shirt isn’t what’s supposed to be funny about this. Of course sexual abuse isn’t funny. But it’s friggin’ hilarious that someone in another country, who probably reads and understands only a tiny bit of English, probably profoundly misunderstood what this passage meant and decided to put it on a shirt. Hilarious, you hear me!?!?!
This is a point that many others have made in exactly the same words. I challenge you to find a funny comment to make about this posting. Find something to make a joke about. I don’t mean you only but all those who are defending the right to find this amusing. If you can find something funny to post, doesn’t have to be an ROFL but just a giggle or two will do, then you and the other folks so adamant about lightening up will have made your collective point. I haven’t seen one amusing comment so far. I’m sitting here wondering why the Engrish site allowed this through. And I’m sitting here amazed at the callous lack of empathy I’m reading in these posts.
Sorry, but guess what? We DO have a right to chuckle at whatever we’d like. If you don’t like it, too bad. No one has to prove that their sense of humor is kosher enough for you.
You don’t think it’s funny. That’s fine. You don’t see me sitting here criticizing people for being overly sensitive (which I don’t think you are, by the way, it’s completely understandable for people to react negatively to certain things). If someone thinks it’s funny, leave them alone. They’re entitled to laugh at whatever they want.
Let me give an example: the “Saw” movies. I think they’re abhorrent and disgusting. I will not watch them, and I don’t understand why people enjoy watching them. But you know what? I don’t criticize them for it. They’re entitled to like what they want.
No funny comment yet. I appreciate the reasonableness of your posting, though. Yes you have a right to find anything you want amusing. And those of us who find it appalling can’t help being bewildered by that.
I can’t think of anything funny to say
Which eloquently proves Holly’s point.
And which has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
I wouldn’t be able to find anything funny to say about the Three Stooges either.
Holly had pointed out that not even the people claiming this was funny had said anything funny. She challenged people to find something funny to say about it. You responded by saying people have a right to laugh at whatever they want. She agreed, but noted that still, nothing funny had been said. You responded that you couldn’t think of anything funny to say. Sounds pretty conclusive to me. As Dr Handle succinctly but eloquently notes below, theoretically this could be funny, but in actuality, it simply isn’t. The “Saw” movies were intended to shock and horrify, and that some people like such movies is a matter of taste. But anyone who regards the “Saw” movies as comedies is obviously lacking an important component of human emotional functioning.
Thanks for the recap. It still has nothing to do with my point. Just because no funny commentary can be made doesn’t mean I can’t laugh at it.
And I said the “Saw” movies were comedies… when? Again, you’ve missed the point.
I’m done trying to defend myself for finding a stupid shirt with creepy text vaguely amusing. People will attack each other on the internet for almost anything, it seems.
I am not attacking anybody. It was I who was attacked by people telling me to “lighten up,” that I was “missing the point of this website,” and that I lack a sense of humor. I explicitly recognized (below, but an earlier post) that I didn’t think someone chuckling over the absurdity of someone printing a shirt like this meant anything bad about them. My point was just that child sexual abuse is something with which I have dealt directly, and that the horror of it does not permit me to laugh about it, and many people had the same response, which you claimed you understood. Holly’s point was that even though many people were claiming this picture was, in fact, funny, no really funny comments had been posted. You admitted that you didn’t have anything funny to say. I merely pointed out that that seemed to confirm Holly’s point. How you can perceive any of this as an attack on you is beyond me. The whole point of all my comments on this picture was simply to inform people of the realities of child sexual abuse, and why I personally find this content so abhorrent I can’t make jokes about it. I even apologized if I ruined anyone’s good time. So if you’re feeling attacked, perhaps you ought to ponder what that means, but I can assure you that no attack is coming from me. The only people I attacked in any way were child molesters, and even them I didn’t so much attack as label “sick.”
The really messed up part would have to be the fact that this is a guy’s shirt.
Men already catch enough flak for being suspected as child predators, this is just pouring salt on the wound
In Family Guy, when Peter was a strawberry, he was m0l3st3d by a worm.
“HE WAS MY NEIGHBOR!!! NOW I’LL NEVER BE IN A DELICIOUS PIE!!!”
It just isn’t funny. Not at all.
LAUGH!!!IT IS FUNNY! YOU BUY SENSE OF HUMOUR!!! 5 BUCKS!!!! BUY NOW BEFORE I RUN OUT OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JIZZ IN MY PANTS!!!!!
If you wear this shirt in public, 50 cops will show up and hogpile you.
This comment made me lol.
Ive seen some interersting stuff on this site that gets printed on Asian t shirts that no one here would wear on one. Im thinking someone knew what it was. Japanese are way more fluent in English than we are in Japanese, I dont see this as a mistake at all. I can see some that read and didnt know about the book thinking it was a couple..not a child and an adult.
It’s Korean.
My lunch just did a turn in my tummy.
That’s just freaky.
Anyone who wears this will most assuredly get what he deserves.
Sorry, I’m extremely open-minded but this disgusts me.
but chances are that in this non-english speaking country someone wearing this wouldn´t even know what it said… i would have to correct them fast.
Wow. What is wrong with people?
I can see that it is incredibly bizarre that this ended up on a shirt; it makes me think of the morons who have tattoos or wear clothing with Asian writing that they don’t understand or think means something else.
Yet my initial reaction was not one of amusement. Maybe that is the point, that English speaking people would see this and think, “That is seriously disturbing” and give the wearer some odd looks. Even so, I really don’t find the situation funny enough to disregard the content of the shirt. Abuse is not funny. :/
Someone please lobotomize me now – although the content was disturbing, I got a good chuckle out of the fact that someone was moronic/ignorant enough to put it on a shirt, and if the comments here are any indication it means I’m a horrible inconsiderate asshole who deserves nothing more than death. I need to get my thoughts replaced with society-approved ones.
There’s nothing wrong with getting a chuckle out of the ignorance or stupidity of the person who put this on the shirt. But just also recognize that there’s nothing wrong with people reacting so strongly to the content that they couldn’t laugh. Having spent much of a lifetime working with victims of abuse, I fell in this category, as surely did anyone who had been abused or whose lives have been touched by abuse, as well as some others. As I said before, I am not at all about political correctness. I am about awareness, mindfulness, and awareness of others’ feelings is part of mindfulness.
I looked at this posting backwards and forwards, and then tried to look at it as a deceased friend would have looked at it. This friend had a penchant for getting in the face with things that were ignored. Would he have worn it? Maybe. His self-appointed task in life was often pushing buttons. How would a pedophile feel faced with this shirt?
I don’t think the shirt is funny. I do think it could be worn by someone angry, someone
who wanted to call out an issue.
You do a good job, JohnB! Don’t be upset. You too, Jennifer!
Thank you! But I was not upset by people’s comments. As anyone who browses here regularly knows, I am not at all deficient in a sense of humor, and I put some thought and effort into trying to find funny things to say, because I do believe that humor is a powerfully effective means of coping, besides being a lot of fun. But I believe that there are times when one must make a stand, regardless of the criticism that might follow, and for me, this was one of them.
My reaction was horrified amusement. I do think that this piece of Engrish belongs here. It’s amazing how we can laugh, albeit despite ourselves, at some terrible things, such as a celebrity’s tragic death, or a disease, but there are some subjects which provoke instant horror in a number of people. There are some things which we “really aren’t supposed to laugh at”. Now, I’m not saying that certain people have had a Sense Of Humour Failure. I’m saying that perhaps society has hamstrung some people’s ability to laugh at some things. Just because you can laugh at a thing, doesn’t mean that you support the negative connotations that it may have.
I suffered from child abuse at the hands of a relative, and to this day, some things really freak me out. This, however, I can laugh at. Not perhaps belly chuckles of mirth, but like I said at the beginning of my epistle, in horrified amusement.
Let’s keeping finding stuff funny, despite ourselves….
Looks like I got here after the party was over. I wasn’t going to comment at all, but then I read your comment, Grrr Power. Congratulations! You make all kinds of sense.
I am glad you have been able to heal tho the extent you have.
I meant upset by the shirt.
Oh. I was surprised at the intensity of my response, given, like I said, that it had been two years since I did any work with known victims of sexual abuse. That work apparently took a bigger toll on my than I realized, even though I was well aware at the time of how difficult it was. It was particularly hard for me because I was one of the few therapists who not only worked with victims but also with offenders, a work I got into only because I finally figured out that to get it to stop we had to find a way to treat offenders. Don’t get me wrong; there are many who are not treatable, and as I said in every evaluation report I ever wrote, treatment is NOT a substitute for punishment, and if the interests of justice require incarceration, then treatment can take place there and/or after parole. But it can be particularly gut-wrenching to work with a victim at one and an offenders’ group at two. So I suppose it is best that I am out of this work for now. There may come a day when I can laugh about something like this; that day is clearly not now.
You are a liar with your very first sentence in that post. That is all you have said since it was posted, you hypocrite.
I’m sorry your life is so miserable that all you have to offer here are angry and bitter attacks. There was a time in my life when I tried to convince others I was something that I’m not. That time is long over. I mostly make funny comments here, but when I get serious I share only things that are true. I have made it clear, for those who read this site regularly, that at one time I was a miserable human being who did things that I am ashamed of, although I usually try to present them in a lighthearted way, since humor is the point of this site. But today I strive each day to say nothing but what is honest, and to show people who I really am. Perhaps one day you will be able to grow spiritually yourself.
I don’t particularly think your comments on other Engrishes are that funny. More tryhard. You seem to want attention.
Humor is very subjective. Quite a few other people have told me they enjoy my posts and find them funny. I’m sorry you don’t. But as I’ve said before, I think the most fun on this site is the back-and-forth banter that so often ensues, which produces something funnier than any one of us could produce. So sometimes when it seems to you my comments are “tryhard,” I may just be trying to get something going. And because I have so much fun here (usually), I end up posting a lot. I’m really not trying to hog the spotlight, since I actually prefer to keep a fairly low profile. I’m just trying to have fun. I don’t plan on having a future in stand-up comedy.
EW! What the hell?
*bites biteme*
*thwaks Alice*
*thwomps Biteme*
*glomps Alice*
*boos Biteme*
*shuns Alice*
I win
*notices that’s not the real Biteme*
I win!
It is. I have three accounts. Mwahahaha.
This was the official t-shirt from sleep-over at Michael Jackson’s House tour…
now that made me chuckle
LOL!!
If they copied the text for the shirt from the book that other posters found it was from, how come they messed up the letters?
This probably comes from China or Japan. It’s become something of a fad there to take swear words or sections from explicit books and place them in english on shirts. Since most of the parents don’t understand English, the kids (who rarely understand it) get something of a giggle out of it. Sometimes they do know what it means, making it even that more amusing to them.
is this a serious conversation going on here? at engrish funny? okay,who slipped drugs into my food.
But anyway,lets lighten up and talk about stuff like,If they replaced the boy with a peice of cheese. If it was cheese it would be funny.
Now that WAS funny!
Creepy and awful. Especially the ‘Sleep Full’ tag line.
Ewwwwwwwww.
WTF Disgusting
Engrish transliterations are just about always funny on some level. This gets theoretical lolz for hilarity of failed phonetic rendition, but the subject material… sorry, I’ll just say I can’t join in the lol-ing this one, leave it at that and move on to another.
O.o What is this, EngrishDepressing? I’m going to be really hypocritical right now and say that if you have only depressing things to say, don’t say anything at all. I agree with your points, JohnB and Jennifer, but…yeah. >.<
Hey, this is actual text from Alfie’s Home by Richard Cohen. It was a very sad book, too. Dear God, what type of sick asshat would write this on a shirt?!
They actually wrote orivae?
Yup. Sick, isn’t it?
Funneh shirt. Engrish win. Them bears iz cwazy.
*twitch* uggghh….its disgusting….imagine how horrible it would be to go though such things and then SEE IT POSTED ON A MANS SHIRT LIKE ITS FUNNY OR SOMETHING. Good Lord, what S.O.B thought that was a good idea?
Not buying into this general debate over whether a healthy mind would or could find anything funny in this scenario..but haven’t you ever thought it’s odd that mainstream TV audiences (including parents) can find clips of kids falling off pushbikes headfirst or walking into swings and getting whacked in the forehead hilariously funny?
Isn’t it odd and a little worrying also that a couple of weeks ago a guy was killed in New Jersey after falling into a huge vat of molten chocolate and the item was carried worldwide in news broadcasts as a piece of light relief? I wouldn’t mind betting his family were and are just as horror-stricken by our callousness as any poster here has been.
Good point about the chocolate man accident. But the reason that the TV clips are (marginally) funny is that usually the accidents occur as a result of some normal idiotic human behavior. Things we have done ourselves are always funny when other humans do them. If we were paying attention that swing wouldn’t have banged us in the head. If we weren’t so determined to do it our way, we wouldn’t be face down in the mud now. See, all very silly behaviors we can relate to. But, pedophilia isn’t self-directed for the child. They don’t choose to be molested. It’s done TO them, not BY them. Sorry to keep beating a dead horse but if you are going to compare this Engrish to anything, it might better be a picture of an execution rather than a picture of a kid with mud on his face.
NO this shirt isn’t funny….it’s a serious issue how it even came into existence..I think this site is funny when honest mistakes in English happen…..like when Anita Mui’s sensitive and heartfelt song ‘years flowing like water’ is posted on youtube with the engrish title ‘years flowing like drain’.
Anyway the point of the clips isnt kids getting mud on their faces…it’s kids getting hit hard in the head…didn’t that ever happen to you when you were a kid? It hurts like hell….it’s scary. It isn’t funny in the least when it happens to you…but when it happens to someone else…even a little kid…we nigh-on split our sides. You cant really say a toddler wlaking intyo a swing is being ‘silly’…he or she is just being a toddler.
Leaving aside the issue of the paedophile shirt I find that issue almost as disturbing.
Yes, I did get hit in the head many times as a kid. Maybe that explains some of my posts!
hahaha…nice talking to you.
I laugh when toddlers walk into a swing, while also running over to make sure they are okay and unhurt. However, did not find this picture amusing in the least.
the only reason people initially read the shirt as pedophelia, or abuse, is because of the title of the LOL….
theres no single age specification included in the shirt
No there’s no age spec in the shirt but there doesn’t have to be. The sleepy bear is drawn with a head too big for it’s body and in the rounded strokes most appealing to a child. The words are standard issue pedophile indicators. Anyone who’s had some “special time” with dad or mom or older brother or the guy down the street or even the much older kids next door recognizes the scene and communications. Okay, I’m picking up my soapbox and heading off for coffee and a muffin.
I have no personal experience of child sexual abuse, but somehow that’s the first thing the text on the shirt made me think of. I never had “that special time” with anyone, so Mar1nus has obviously missed something here.
its an adults t-shirt. im sorry you are offended but when *I* personally read this shirt i didnt take it as a pedophile thing but maybe thats just me.
Not the muffin!!! *gets eaten* (there, now there’s a lulz on this page)
jezuz h khrist on a pogo stick.
Relax people.
This is what this site is all about.
Engrish (which this has plenty of due to transcription errors) and English Fail, for nobody in their right mind would have made this shirt.
I guarantee you the person who created the design had NO IDEA what the text meant. Most likely, they had this book in a pile of english books lying around, saw something like an illustration of the kid getting ready for bed, and just typed in a passage form the book so it would look like real English.
And EngrishFunny. This is funny. You laugh.
Looking at the text again, it looks as though it’s the result of OCR software… not typed in… Whoever did it, probably had a whole bunch of “good quality” English books intended for t-shirts, and just picked random pages… Ho hum.
The problem isn’t that we think the person making it had any idea what it meant. The problem is that something like this hits very close to home for those of us who have experienced or have loved ones who have experienced child abuse.
It’s a horrific thing that one does not get over. Ever. And seeing it on a site that you expect to be amusing and light hearted is incredibly difficult.
Very true, Jessica. Toilets, decorating or otherwise, sex burgers, magic pants, hentai can all be hilarious. Child abuse and sexual imposition on a child are about as funny as killing a child. The fact that so many people want to mock John and others for insisting on the lack of funniness means to me that there are people who don’t want to acknowledge that there are things in their lives they can’t control. Not bad people, just ignorant of what it takes to live through that and what it takes to make it every day. It takes a lot of courage to live a “normal” life. It takes a lot of faith to keep putting one foot in front of the other. Some of us split our psyches so we can keep the horrific memories away. Some just bury them deeply, although they are still alive. Some people drag the memories into the light of day and learn to live with them. It’s not easy be reminded of that period of our life on a supposedly “safe” site.
Very eloquent and to the point.
I can only speak for myself but the reason John’s posts are annoying to me is not because I think he shouldn’t be serious on a joke site. It’s more the self importance that reeks from his every word. And the way he labours the point. It’s like he enjoys talking about it.
Yeah, I’ve been having a real blast recalling all the horrors of child sexual abuse to which I have been exposed over many years, and getting insulted for it to boot. This was lots of fun.
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What I have to wonder, really, is who’s the bloody perverted jerk who printed this on the shirt in the first place?
the oblivious engrish speaking asian that didnt understand what he was printing ?
This one ruined the rest of the lols on the site for me. I’m too sick to my stomach to laugh at them.
I have never been offended by a lol before (I found the Baby Heads Cemetery on Failblog hilarious and terrible). This is…sick. And too much.
I have to go vomit now.
What a bunch of mental weaklings. Some words on a shirt can make you vomit, cry, get sick, and lecture. Get a grip. The words are there whether or not it was posted here. Or do you think it won’t exist just because you don’t see it? If some idiot posted something I did not like I WOULD NOT LOOK AT IT!!!!. If it happened often enough I just might re-evaluate coming back to this site! But you bunch of cry-babies made this visit more annoying than anything else! What exactly do you think has been helped here just because of your comments? Not a damned thing. And as a side note, if it’s true that, as someone posted earlier. that this happens to one out of 4 kids, (which imo is BS) you don’t think that kids would learn to deal with it? horrible or not, if you think that you could not survive, than you better lock yourself in a room and cover your head. It’s no wonder this world is falling apart, when some words can make you ill?!?!? Where is Darwin when you need him?
rant off.
You nearly had me, there, but I can’t believe that anyone with such a good command of English could fail to see the errors in this argument. It’s satire, right? I can just see Graham Chapman, in uniform, spouting something like this at the end of a Python sketch.
First LOL on this page!
I might be with you there, Droll, had I not heard so many similar arguments from family members, friends, and spouses regarding abuse. “Get over it,” they so often say. “That was years ago. Put it out of your head. Now cheer up!” If anyone actually believes this, look up the symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder, and ask yourself how much fun they would be, especially since, in PTSD, they often come on without warning and always without control. I hope you are right, DnT, that this is satire, but my experience suggests it’s not.
I was being satyrical/sarcastic, JohnB. You wouldn’t be the first to ever take one of my weirder comments seriously. I started to suggest that jdub should address a group of Vietnam veterans on the subject & see how he survives, but decided there’s always the chance that he might, and the vets don’t need that. Some of them might end up on charges of GBH, or worse!
I thought you might be, but I wasn’t sure. I’ll know better next time!
Sending you a big, super-sized box of empathy, jdub. I know nothing abot you, and would never presume to decide who and what you are but you clearly could use some affection and so I’m sending you some of that, too.
Frankly, from what I understand from knowing victims of sectual abuse, and classes I’ve taken, male sexual abuse of a male child is less (practically NOTHING, actually) about sex, and more about domination – the same way it is used in prisons (and, for that matter, in primates in the wild).
It doesn’t mean the victim will turn gay from it, but given the way abuse tends to run in families from their environment, it probably does substantially increase the chance that the abused child will become an abuser later, or worse (from a mental health point of view) decide that the grossly abnormal behavior that they were subjected to should be considered normal.
People like JohnB then have to deal with the result, and trying to get those aberrant notions out of the victims’ heads, and I really do sympathise for those that have to do that work, because in many cases it’s a Humpty Dumpty situation.
I wonder where Darwin is to jdub. He seems to have missed cataloging you as a step in evolution, sub human. Now that the personal attack is done, lets point something out
How would you know you don’t like the image without looking at it? You logic is, frankly, more fail than everything on failblog combined with that one statement.
See, there you all go again. Equating words with actions that are without argument a horrible thing to experience. Do you think that a soldier would break down crying at the sight of a passage out of a book? If so, then I hope none of you are policemen, firefighters, or medical personnel, because according to you it would be completely acceptable to have a nervous breakdown if you happened to catch a glimpse of a sentence out of a novel while trying to save a life. They’re words, not acts. Sub-human? Tell you what, while being chased by some predator, let’s say, a Sabre toothed tiger, I can carve a glyph with my handy dandy flint on a piece of slate (that I conveniently carry around with me for just such a purpose) of Micheal Jackson, and I know that you being such a weak minded pansy will immediately begin convulsing at the thought that someone may have gotten touched inappropriately, thereby allowing me, the sub-human, to skip safely away while you get torn apart, your vomit spraying and staining my fig leaf. Then I can take what’s left of your earlobe and show it to the leader of the Wussatribe and while he crawls off to a cave to wipe the tears from his protruding brow because of the horrible experience of seeing said earlobe, I can steal all his hairy women. Actually, now that I think about, you guys go right ahead, my sub-human-ness seems to have some unseen benefits!
Flame on!
When I was a 6 year old kid and the other kids would call me names and bully me, my mother told me a “magic” name to chant in their faces: “Sticks and stones may break me bones but words will never hurt me!” I said it over and over to them. So they tied me to a tree and threw stones and hit me with sticks until blood ran down my face. So don’t tell ME about how words can’t hurt me. Because what they did to me that day was a lot less painful than the ugly words they used about me.
If I heard those words coming out of the mouth of an adult speaking to a child, I would also not vomit (right then). I would beat the living heck out of the adult, get the child to safety (probably not in that order), deal with whatever ELSE needed to be dealt with, and then have the reaction later.
That’s my point up above. This site is supposed to be relaxing, fun, and amusing. But those words are not. There is no immediate danger, and our parasympathetic nervous systems are kicked in, so that we can experience emotion from the words (otherwise, we wouldn’t be able to find the other items funny). So we let the words in, and they DO affect us.
Many police, firefighters, war veterans, etc. are perfectly fine in high adrenaline situations. It’s when they’re taking the kids to the park, or relaxing on a day off that something hits wrong. PTSD breaks don’t usually happen when the soldier is at war. It’s when they’re safe. At home.
Were this a child abuse survival site, I would never be affected by those words like I was last night. I would have been prepared to see them.
Once again jdub, you prove yourself the idiot. You described early humans, not the slime you are. I haven’t equated words to actions. I mentioned that one can not make an opinion of something without first viewing it.
Get off your high horse. If everyone is such a crybaby as you described, then go ahead and make some grand coup and become ruler of whatever backwater area you live in and teach them to be callous and uncaring. I do get why some people find this funny, i also get why some people are disturbed by this, but of all the arguments both way, you where the only one to call people having experienced a trauma much worse than any others “crybabies”. You species may be human, but your thought process most certainly is not, it seems to be a regression to the times when the proper way to deal with some negative external stimuli was was to kill it, even if it was you’re own family, If you have children i would hate to see how messed up you made them.
It doesn’t matter anyway, the way you think will force you to answer me, for fear of being just another cry baby if you don’t.
In fact, over the course of my career, I have had to deal with countless acute crises and emergency situations, including physical assaults upon my person. As a trained and experienced professional, I have dealt with all of these situations in the most rational manner possible. I may be aware of my feelings, but at that moment they have to be compartmentalized, because I have a job to do. I once spent 90 minutes calmly talking to a man I knew to be well armed and quite dangerous, and I seemed, even to another professional in the room with me, to be unnaturally calm and rational. I probably sweated off a good ten pounds during that time, and had to take the rest of the day off, but I was back at work the next morning. Much like being an idiot, being a coward is not something I have ever been accused of.
Ever heard of the phrase”Yesterday be sh!t, today be bigger sh!t”?
Wow, people so worked up over something unfortunate.
I would have preferred to see it in FailBlog, where at least I’m more prepared for the ‘ouch’ factor.
Well, I was sexually and physically abused as a child, and I actually found this t-shirt slogan incredibly funny. Horrific, but funny.
Now, does anybody mind if I screengrab this whole thread and repost it to Failblog as a PERSPECTIVE FAIL?
Lol… I liked your post… very coherent
Creepiest engrish ever.
If this T-shirt does not qualify as CREEPY I don’t know what does.
Sleep full?
Full of what, jizz?!!!!!
lolz
Haha! I think the shirt is great. Whatever book it was taken out of, it seems to be making the point that TEDDY BEARS do the molestation. Isn’t that a lot cuter? I mean, what kid DOESN’T hump their teddy bears? We molest things all the time.
JohnB: You are a prime example of a curmudgeon.
And if you have looked at my posts on other pictures, and come to that opinion, fine. But my responses to this one are far from typical, and I have explained exactly why. And if you are naive enough to believe that this text is about humping teddy bears, then obviously you can get yourself to believe anything you want. I hope sexual abuse doesn’t affect anyone in your family, because you are clearly not equipped to be helpful to that person.
omg, you’re insufferable.
Show of hands: Who doesn’t know some one who’s been molested? Anyone? Doubt it. I can name at least five people. These “until molestation happens to you” comments are getting rediculous. Pretty sure there’s no one on the planet who hasn’t been affected by child abuse.
You’ve made your point about 50 times in this thread (that’s a conservative estimate), and you’ve done it by making assinine assumptions about people and trivializing their experiences.
I think the shirt’s hilarious. Yes, I know people who have been molested. Yes, I understand your right not to think it’s funny. You don’t need to add one more tl;dr paragraph to this pile of tedium. Way to raise awareness in the comments section of Engrish, though. I was never aware that pedophilia was a problem until you told me.
Win.
I am a professional who is well trained and experienced in the treatment of sexual abuse victims and offenders. To say I am making asinine assumptions or trivializing people’s experience is just ignorant. I would not have made my point so many times had there not been so many people who claimed, like you, that I don’t know what I’m talking about. And just read those responses and tell me that everybody is aware that pedophilia is a problem to the extent that it is. Obviously, they are not. My original intent was not at all to write so much. But when I see so much ignorance, I can’t help trying to raise people’s awareness. Unfortunately, some people just won’t listen to the truth, and that isn’t funny, it’s sad.
He didn’t say you don’t know what you’re talking about. I think everyone here knows that you know exactly what you’re talking about. It’s pretty obvious you’re a very intelligent, professional individual.
What’s annoying to him (and me, and others on this thread) is that people are assuming that because we don’t have a strong negative reaction to this shirt, we must not have ever been through or know anyone who has been through a traumatizing experience.
Similarly, it is silly to imply that we are ignorant of these issues.
I’m not speaking for everyone, but most of us have listened to you and even agreed with you. But just because we deal with our life experiences differently (i.e. we are able to laugh at things like this) does not mean that we are stupid, ignorant, narrow-minded or any other negative adjective you would use to describe us.
Thank you!
Yes, John, you are trivializing my experiences. How do you know I’m so ‘ignorant’ or unaware? Do you know if I’ve been molested? Do you know if anyone in my family has been molested? Oh, I guess if I don’t agree with you, it means that my experience with this issue doesn’t matter, and that’s an assinine assumption. I didn’t say you don’t know what you’re talking about, but now I’m saying exactly that.
Read my post above about what I tell victims. If you are a victim, you have survived something I probably could not have. And as such you have my deepest respect and admiration. But the experience you had was unique to you and your situation. The perspective I have on this issue was developed by listening to literally thousands of victims, doing long-term therapy on victims and offenders, reading countless studies and books, attending workshops by experts in the field, and having been personally mentored by a man who was one of the pioneers in the field. If your personal experience was different, I don’t claim you are being insincere or that you can’t be right. I’m simply saying that what I say is not made up, tossed out lightly, or unfounded. Working with victims and offenders is very difficult, demanding, and stressful work, and no one forced me to take it on. I know that the stress I have felt is in no way comparable to the horrors that you, a victim, must have suffered and must suffer still. But I have a broader perspective on the experiences of victims than you do. If a cancer victim knows more about cancer then her doctor, she needs a new doctor. I am not in any way trivializing your experience. In one of my first posts on this thread I stated that sexual abuse by a person in authority or in a close relationship to the victim is the most stressful thing anyone can go through. Period. How on Earth you could say I am trivializing it is beyond me, since I stated outright that there is nothing worse. I have not accused anyone of being ignorant or narrow-minded except for those who first accused me of lying. People do not want to believe this happens to so many people, and so they become hostile to the messenger. Those are the ignorant folks, not those who disagree with me or those who can laugh at this. Different people deal with things differently. I can fully understand a victim laughing at this. I have explained why I can’t, and many others have agreed they can’t also. I’m not saying that my not finding this funny means I am a superior human being. I hadn’t planned on saying very much at all. But if you look through the comments of those who attacked me for saying what I did at first you will find plenty of ignorant statements. And that’s what I wanted to set straight, simple as that. I have no desire whatsoever to discuss this issue any further, but yet here nearly two weeks after this thread started I am still getting attacked for expressing my position. I have explained, as clearly and honestly as I can, upon what I base this position. I am not claiming to be omniscient or infallible. I am not trying to make anyone feel bad. I’m simply trying to express something that keeps getting misunderstood. As I said, I have been in court as an expert witness hundreds of times. And many times there was another professional who expressed opinions different than mine. The task of the juror was to decide whom to believe. They didn’t all believe me, and that is fine with me. All I can do is tell the truth as I see it, and if you are unconvinced of anything I say, fine. You have the right to think and believe anything you want, particularly if you base it on direct experiences of your own. But that certainly doesn’t mean that I don’t know what I’m talking about.
tl;dr.
TL;DR for like the millionth time from this guy
“If a cancer victim knows more about cancer then her doctor, she needs a new doctor.”
No, that’s fairly normal. Drs are general experts in medicine, in modern medicine it is unrealistic to expect a doctor to be the expert in every illness their patients may get. My GP quite rightly expects me to be the ‘expert patient’, read all the latest research and keep on top of developments in knowledge about my debilitating illness, and then he trusts what I tell him and ask him for in terms of support and medication.
Also, I do agree that you come across sounding smug (the repeated mentions of how you are an expert, how hard you work, how long you’ve worked for), and patronising to people who might know plenty about child abuse. I showed this to a social worker with nearly 30 years experience of working with abused (sexually, physically, and mentally) children, and he rofled because it was so innappropriate to have it on a shirt, obviously not because he thinks child abuse is trivial or amusing. The humour is in the context. You have stated yourself that some people find it funny and others cannot. Surely after that you wouldn’t need to comment anymore, as there is nothing to change that; some people will still laugh and others will still not be able to. The post after post if anything will just irritate people, which would likely result in more ‘attacks’ upon yourself, not so much out of ignorance, but sheer frustration at the amount and volume of your comments, saying essentially the same thing.
seriously. said it right
I never knew anyone who did that… you’re creeping me out more than that shirt. o.O
Its Engrish! When Engrish is not disturbing it’s lame. If you don’t like it, don’t look at it.
oh my… this is beyond everything i’ve seen before… not even funny, this is hardcore.. great find anyway
Some of the responses remind me of the Shakespeare line “he jests at scars who never felt a wound.”
JohnB, you keep on keeping on; we need more ministers like you.
Amen, Brother!
WTF?
this is a page from the book “a touch from an uncle”
lolz
Oh, um… how… sweet…
Pedobear is back.
JohnB, you have my utmost respect. I got into it on another site in a different thread regarding the use of the “R” word. A lot of comments were telling me to “lighten up”, etc. Six years in Social Services working primarily adults with Down Syndrome has given me a different view/sensitivity regarding the debate whether it’s OK to call someone a retard, even if that is meant as a joke on someone who is not. Meh.
/end threadjack
And you have my sincere thanks, since so many people have responded with such hostility. Like most people, I come here for the lolz. But when there is an opportunity to raise awareness, I can’t help trying to do so. Obviously I have failed, for many people. But if even one person thinks about the truths I am sharing, that I know from experience, then it was worth all the flak.
I want to thank you, JohnB for staying strong when most people here seem to dislike what you have to say. I was molested by my supposed best friend, who was older than me, soon after my mother died in 1997. I told no one, because I was 12 and thought everyone would see my age as a defense against molestation. I still haven’t told my father, as he is intensely homophobic, and would possibly see me as gay as a result. I am in fact straight. I find the context of the shirt hilarious, but agree that molestation is nothing to laugh about. However, I live by the rule “either everything is okay to make fun of, or nothing is”. The act isn’t funny, but the fact that someone can find humor in everything if they look hard enough is what makes life bearable for me. I also think pedobear is funny. Don’t get me wrong, a real pedobear would be a horrible thing. But the fact that somebody was able to take something as awful as child molestation and create such a cute and funny character is great. @unkopatrol As long as retarded is the clinical term for a retarded person, I will use it. However, I do not use the word in a derogatory or meanspirited way, only as the term it is meant to be. Being politically correct can be a good thing, but as long as we walk on eggshells around everyone, we won’t get anything done. Calling someone a retard is wrong, but saying that a mentally retarded person is mentally retarded is not being mean, even if it is somewhat insensitive.
The QQ factor in here is simply hilarious! Super entertaining to see people on a 4chan meme spinoff site going crazy over some crap no one even cares about. Truly full of epic lulz.
QQ?
So you are saying no one cares about a child being molested?
Wow! After reading ALL of the comments I HAVE to put in my $.02.
As someone who was subjected to sexual abuse as a child I feel very comfortable saying the shirt IS hilarious. I’d also like to point out that perhaps John B. is a bit TOO much of an expert. What I mean by that is that someone who dedicates his life to helping people who are the most worse-off is bound to have a world view that supports the information gleaned from those people. I don’t just mean you, sir, but all of the people who do the serious research, the lawyers, and counselors- the whole cabal. I propose to you that most abuse goes unreported and that most victims go on to lead normal happy lives where such trauma is part of the past. As a victim and someone who knows many others, it is my general opinion that most of us DO “get over it”. Thank you, but save your pity for those in trauma. Certainly, it has shaped my life, PTSD has caused me to have certain “issues” with violence over the years, and I raise my children with far more vigilance than I would have. But, I honestly think that most of us are not re-living nightmares for most of our lives, and we can and do move on. I can laugh heartily at these types of jokes in just the same way as I can laugh at that old National Lampoon movie where the family inadvertently ties the dog to the back of the vehicle and drives away. As a dog lover and abuse “survivor” I see your point but have to say, YES, you can lighten up.
Thank you!
I was wanting to say that, but unsure how to not come across as flippant, but you managed to be articulate and elegant.
I think lots of people do experiance some kind of abuse, and I can think of at least 10 of my friends and family, and all but one of them are absolutely fine as grown ups and would laugh at this lol (the other one would probably laugh as well, just has issues with relationships and validating herself though men… but that’s not exclusive to abuse, and could be down to many other things in her life). People who work in this field will only see the people who need help, not the many who survived abuse without any outside assistance.
THANK U! freaking stated that perfectly
Many congratulations on those of you who suffered sexual abuse and have gotten over it without professional help. But what you may not realize is that the extent of harm caused by sexual abuse is subject to many factors, including the number of times it occurred, the number of offenders, and the relationships between the offenders and the victim, not to mention the nature of the abuse itself. Many Viet Nam vets came out without serious mental illnesses; however, that does not mean that war should be taken lightly or is a laughing matter. When a child is daily sexually abused by a parent and three other relatives from the age of 5 to the age of 16, the chances that child will not have mental problems is small, and yes, that kind of abuse does happen. And that kind of trauma is far more serious than anything anyone goes through in war. We know for a fact that most victims do not report abuse, and we do not neglect that at all in our thinking. We are well familiar with the effect that seeing only clinical samples has on our views, which is why most of the research is done by non-clinicians on people who are not clients. But the fact is that there are many people walking around with mental illnesses who do not get treatment, and it is also a fact that many people get treatment and do not tell you about it. Most people put on a facade of “looking fine” when oftentimes they are not. So while it is true that my experience working with victims makes me biased, your lack of clinical experience makes you biased in the other direction. The neighbors of serial killers often describe them as nice, quiet people. You’d be quite surprised how many of the people you think are “just fine” are not. Just in doing commitment evaluations alone–which is an assessment to recommend whether somebody is mentally ill enough and dangerous enough to be forcibly sent to a mental hospital–I evaluated some doctors, lawyers, many “pillars of the community,” and even one gubernatorial candidate. (I didn’t recommend commitment, and he didn’t win, fortunately, since in that office he might well have become dangerous.) Sorry to spoil your pleasant illusion, but there are lots and lots of mentally ill people out there, and most are not in therapy.
JohnB, sounds like you have more issues than the people you want to help. Till you can pull his stick out of your butt and move on your going to be doomed to a very unhappy life. With all your posts it also shows how you want everyone else to be as unhappy as you. Now put down all the self help books and get on with life be fore you too become a danger to us all
Well, if this is your first foray into amateur psychology, you didn’t do well at all. I am quite happy, thank you. I have plenty of issues, but most of them became quite manageable when I got clean and sober 20 years ago. Look over most of my posts on this site (not just this item) and you’ll see that instead of trying to make people unhappy, I work rather hard at getting them to laugh, and the responses I get back show that I succeed at least sometimes. I also come here to get laughs myself, but this item seemed to bring the ignorant people out of the woodwork. I don’t read self-help books because they’re usually full of cr@p. Child sexual abuse is an issue of great seriousness about which people still have a great deal of denial. How I could any more “get on with life” is not clear to me, since I have a rewarding career, a successful long-term marriage (23 years), a beautiful and intelligent daughter, am pursuing further academic studies and degrees, help care for my elderly parents (whom I brought to live next door to me, rather than have my father in a nursing home), live in a nice house with good neighbors, drive a nice vehicle, and practice and teach yoga and meditation on a daily basis. I know what I know, and what I don’t, and if you don’t like what I know, it’s not because I’m making it up in order to make people miserable.
Tell me, would you have laughed if the family had DELIBERATELY tied the dog to the back of the vehicle and drove away, laughing at its pain? Of course not. Child sexual abuse is not an accident.
Hey john, you have a great point, but here we’re supposed to comment on the irony of the t-shirt, not on child abuse. Please stop commenting here about that, ‘cuz you’re wasting time. Nobody will get your point.You should comment about this, but, in some kind of specialized site.
Srsly, probably nobody understood what you said. So, give up.
That’s why I stayed away from this thread for months, but I saw some recent activity and curiosity got the best of me. Believe me, I have made these points countless times in teaching, counseling, courtrooms, media, talking to other professionals, etc. etc. You might be surprised how ignorant other professionals often are. And it does cut both ways. When a professional not trained in the proper techniques for conducting a child sexual abuse investigation gets done talking to a child, any possibility of getting good information from the child may be ruined. You cannot ask children leading questions, and there’s no doubt in my mind this has resulted in more than one child abuse “witch hunt” in which innocent people were convicted of things that never happened.
But you’re right. I shouldn’t have come back here.
I just have to jump in with a couple of quick points here. First of all on the shirt itself, this isn’t Engrish. It was a page from a book scanned into a computer and converted to text again by a computer program. some tell tale signs are touch being spelled correctly early then spelled tough later, mearis for means, and orivae instead of private. when there are that many translation errors that are visually similar to what they should be it was not a linguistic error.
Also, I think pedophilia is an atrocity and the people that perpetrate it should be castrated/given a historectamy publicly upon being found guilty. But I did get humor in this because some completely inconsiderate ass that wanted to make a buck without earning it plagiarized this passage and probably didn’t understand why this and subsequently none of his merchandise was selling. So kudos to whoever posted it for making this mans folly super public.
Lastly, I appreciate all the comments and arguments and confessions people have made on here. It doesn’t really matter where or when we voice our thoughts, if any subject comes up and u have something to say on it then say it! Waiting for a better time or feeling that it might not be appropriate is a waste of mind. That being said…
JohnB, You have made a great many valid points, which being in the field of clinical psychology as you seem to be is only to be expected, and I don’t mean this as an attack on you personally, but I’m afraid that I think you have made a mistake many in your profession have. You seem to have wrapped yourself in your professional pride and the distancing necessary to deal with what you deal with on a daily basis, and it comes out very much here. You have said repeatedly how strongly you feel on this subject, but in almost every post you site “your experience as a professional” and all the work you’ve done with victims. So why do you keep your job between yourself and the conversation? Of course being in your field you would have a better understanding of the human psyche as a whole than the average web surfer and I’m sure everyone could learn something from you. But who could know better how to deal with victimization than the victim? Treatment isn’t about telling someone how to deal with it, it’s about helping them understand the way their own mind wants to deal with it. The professional distancing doesn’t achieve that. Sometimes a random internet posting like this t-shirt in this context can do that better than years of therapy, just because it sets the ball rolling in a new direction. If people who were victims laugh at this, then it’s good they were given the opportunity. Some have posted on here who obviously wanted to talk about it, again this gave them the opportunity. So what a lot of people are knocking as insensitive and innapropriate could very well be what someone needs to “get over it”
Of course you cannot know this through this medium, but I am not at all someone who deals directly with people by “wrapping myself in my professional pride.” I make it clear from the outset of my work with anyone that I am not at all some paragon of mental health preaching to the poor benighted mentally ill souls, but rather am someone who has suffered himself who is here to help. My frequent references to my qualifications here came about simply because so many people were claiming I didn’t know what I was talking about. Treatment is, as you say, not at all about telling people how to deal with it, because anyone who has made it to my office has already found some way to deal with it. But if the way they have dealt with it was still working, they wouldn’t be in my office. My job is to help them find a better way to deal with it, and I do mean help them find a better way, not tell them a better way, because what works for one person may not work for another. I can’t tell someone how to deal with anything, but I can help them find ways to get past places they are stuck.
That is the main problem with the written medium as opposed to face to face conversation, so much is lost. Again I don’t mean to attack you, your methods, or your right to your professional pride. The fact that you’ve stuck to this thread for so long and stood your ground speaks volumes for your character. The people who’ve told you to shut up or go away or otherwise criticized you for being too serious can bite it. regardless of if someone finds this funny or not it will stir serious thoughts in all of us and it’s bound to be discussed in that light. you just happened to be the first one to stand up and say “no thanks”. The fact that there is a link to mark this image offensive and it’s continued presence here says neither you nor anyone else is here to “ruin the fun”, as there are clearly posted easier ways to do that. I was only pointing out that in your profession as a whole there seems to be a tendancy to distance oneself from the patient and take all the textual learning as hard fact. In a science which is essentially a scant 100 years old and has very little in the way of immutible laws nothing can be taken as given. If I misjudged then I appologize, but I felt the frequent references to your profession (even from the first post), statistics which may be accurate within the bounds under which they were collected but could hardly represent a significant population, the motivation of pedophiles as currently hypothosized, and offenders and victims alike that you have worked with, put you into that category. As you say though this medium, which wants to imitate personal contact but should really be viewed as more of a town hall meeting is a poor way to form a judgement.
I frequently point out that psychology is essentially where medicine was at the end of the 19th century: we know a little, we know some things that work, and much of what we think we know is cr@p. In fact, I’ve been in the field long enough to have seen some of the things I learned become positively laughable. When I cited statistics, I specifically mentioned that these are “the best estimates we have.” It would not at all surprise me to find out that these are off by a factor of two or three; regardless, it is clear that far, far too many of our children are being subjected to abuse. Your observation that in my profession as a whole, there is too much of a tendency to distance oneself from the patient and to take textual information as fact is, in my opinion, dead on. I have flatly declared that most psychologists, and therapists in general, are useless. My bedrock position is that a real encounter between two real human beings is absolutely necessary for anything useful to come out of the discussion, so every time I meet with anyone, I try to be fully present in the moment as a person, to treat the person with respect, and to not make any assumptions about who or how this person is. I am also quite open about who I am and what I have gone through. But I have an advantage over most psychologists in that I have struggled, myself, with a very serious mental illness, and so I know full well what it’s like to sit on the other side of the room, and how it feels when they lock the ward door behind you and confiscate your razor. I also have had several family members and some close friends with a mental illness, so it is always very real for me. When a client is at all suicidal, I am acutely aware that what is happening is literally a matter of life and death, and though we never know just what might tip the balance for this person, I do know that I won’t wrap up with that person until I have put it all out there, put every ounce of energy into really hearing them and helping them find a reason to keep living, regardless of whether they then go home or go on to a hospital. And one thing I never do any more is chuck the BS to make it look like I know what I’m talking about when I don’t. I will admit I was prone to that when I was young, but I have learned that life is too short for that. If I die tonight, I die knowing that I spent my last day on Earth being who I really am and being honest with all I talked to.
What in the world!!!!!!??
this shirt is soooo creepy and it scares me
i thaught this site was for loz…this shiz isn’t funny at all. It’s horrendous, if i saw any one wearing that shirt it would take all my strength not to punch them in the groin
That is really freaking scary…
This shirt kinda reminds me of Alfie’s Home.
We can’t see the whole shirt, but the satin at the neck makes me think it’s some sort of baby sleeping outfit or even a toddler sleeping outfit. Plus, the little bear with its closed eyes gives me that impression as well. I find it hard to believe that this was meant to be a man’s T-shirt with satin around the neck, and a little teddy bear with closed eyes on the front.
I looks like some very stupid people just took some bad text and had a vague idea that it had “something” to do with children, so they put it on the baby/toddler outfit, as if it were some sort of loving story. The people who used the text are obviously just total morons who don’t know any English at all, and of course, the Roman alphabet is totally foreign to them as well.
For one thing, what the hell does “sleep full” even mean? It’s pretty nonsensical in English, but those idiots probably thought it was something cute and comforting; hence, the whole story in their minds must be something “dreamy” and “bed-time-story” comforting to a child.
The thing that annoys me most here is the stupidity level of the shirt makers. It’s as if there is not even ONE educated English-speaker in the entire country whom these shirt makers could consult.
it was actually a mans shirt. if u read the caption it says its a MANs shirt. not a childrens shirt.
It should be a childrens shirt
The internet is a funny entity, in one topic we have went from random internet FIRSTS and other web cliches, to a heart-filled defense of not molesting kids to a small break for some grammar fights then a homosexual debate and finally whether or not the shirt is for a man or a woman. I would love to see a show that took forum posts like these and recited them in a Shakespearean manner. I think both party’s in the debate would find THAT funny.
I have often wanted to do this with many aspects of internet life.
Doesn’t anyone wonder what the native ‘translation’ was before it was Engrished?
Has the message gotten better or worse since translation?
I find it highly amusing that those who are against the shirt and it’s imagined support of assault had found this place and have, more than likely, laughed at and made fun of every other picture on this particular site. They mock foreigners and their inability to spell and translate properly these things and yet cannot understand that the shirt was a simple mistake, foolish, but simple.
I thought the shirt’s ironic message and placement in the children’s section was hilarious. Really. Like realizing your proud white parents descended from a branch of Africans and mixed in a little bit of Indian. “I love my sister-mother…damn.” it’s just funny.
I also laugh at people who speak English who make these same mistakes, so I do not consider it racist. Thank you though for your generalized remark.
My finger hurts from having to scroll down through all this
Text should be on school uniforms.
Heh…
While I have not read any of these comments, I can assume (based off of the length of the posts I had to dredge through to get to the bottom of the page) a lot of them are about the seriousness of child abuse and how making light of it isn’t funny.
While child molestation is indeed a serious problem, frankly, I’m glad that there is still a topic that is taboo enough to make fun of and get the reaction dark humor aims to generate: mostly disgust by the masses, and a few chuckles from the mature; for part of what forms those chuckles is the notion that there are many who just let their emotions get the hold of them.
So long racist, Holocaust and dead baby jokes: the new black is “our special secret.”
JohnB has a proverbial stick up his ass.
Or was molested.
There’s nothing proverbial about it. JohnB opinion seems to be that if his sensabilities are tortured therefore everyone elses should be as well. Well I have learned long ago to live with all the horrible things that have happened to me and others. Because if I don’t I would just be a blubbering nut-case.
And how would that be different from how you are now?
The fact is that I made a simple statement about why I personally could not find this one funny. That provoked a hailstorm of attacks from people who claimed I was trying to tell them that they couldn’t find it funny, from those who claimed that child secksual abuse is not at all common and/or not at all harmful, and those who claimed I was making stuff up. I responded to the attacks, and tried to set the misconceptions straight. For that I was attacked all the more, although a few people were courageous enough to thank me for my stand. What is wrong with an experienced health professional being indignant about the abuse of children? To those who got offended by my being strident and indignant, I say you are the ones who need to lighten up. More than one person gave me a tl;dr, and I don’t have a problem with that. Many people don’t seem to read any of the comments. I’m sure many people skip mine. That’s their prerogative. I don’t force anybody to do anything. But if you read what I wrote and then attack it, why shouldn’t I respond? (Other than the fact that all it will bring is another attack, which is, as I said, why I haven’t even looked here in months.)
And for the record, no, I was not molested. As to the contents of my anus, I defy anyone to read the silly stuff I write elsewhere on this site and tell me I’m not loose. I’m a funny guy who enjoys life, now more than ever before, but as John Mellencamp said, if you don’t stand for something, then you’ll fall for anything.
I came here because I had noticed activity here under ‘Your Yacks Currently’.
I hadn’t really wanted to post anything here except to say;
JohnB, not only are you VERY intelligent, extremely well informed, but also very kind and caring, a truly Righteous human being.
Oh, and funny, too.
*blushes* I really was not planning on coming back here again, but when I saw your name under “Your Yacks” here, I decided to check out your take, since I have great respect for your intellect and maturity. I thank you most sincerely for the validation. But truly, the credit for the good you see in me belongs to a Power much greater than myself, for I was quite lost and hopeless and headed for an early grave when a miracle happened, and here I am.
The book is called “Alfie’s Home” and is about a young boy who’s uncle molests him.
I think this might be on a blanket. . . See the satin edging on top? Creepier or not creepier than a t-shirt? Discuss. . .
People really need to lighten up. The main issue here is: Why the hell would you put this paragraph on a shirt for children?
This takes away all my faith in my country
I would laugh though, if I went back and saw someone walking around with this shirt on. I mean, Korean people study overseas, they go back after a couple of years having learnt more English than they could ever hope to learn in their academies in their lifetime, and they still manage to put out this kind of clothing with (inappropriate) Engrish all over it.
Guess it’s not a good idea for a chinese t-shirt designer to just search for words like “child” and “love” on the internet and use cut&paste on something they don’t understand…
Somebody found THIS to be funny?! Yeah, it has awful grammar and spelling but that ISN’T FUNNY. And considering that I had to live with somebody like that I am disgusted that anybody could see humor in this. And to all of you who don’t care and find it ‘stupid’ I would really like to see you handle an actual abuse victim. Don’t you have any idea how awful it is to have to live with that? It makes them feel like THEY’VE done something wrong, when that isn’t the issue at all. I know this because I’ve had to deal with a few things like this since I was five. Don’t you dare say you don’t care about kids like that, I honestly believe that you should have some sense beaten into you for saying those things. At present, alot of the people in the world should die, and yeah it’s harsh, but when you think of the crime, and terrorism, and sh** like this?! Do you WANT these people living in your world?
It’s not so much what the paragraph says, dear. It’s where it’s placed.
Imagine spotting an uptight caucasian in the middle of Compton and acting high and mighty. Wouldn’t you find the ironic situation funny at all?
No, child molestation is NOT funny, a few of my friends have gone through it and sometimes certain things bring back bad memories for them. I don’t find the subject funny at all, but, seeing as someone foolishly placed it on an item for children is funny.
Irony is funny, not the paragraph.
SHOW ME ON THE DOLL WHERE THE BAD MAN TOUCHED YOU!!! MWAHAHAHHAH LOL
is it wrong that i lol’d?
One night when he was holding me, he started touch my private parts. Over time, he taught me to touch and play with his, it felt very strange, scary and a little good too. He told me it was ok, that this means he really loves me. This went on for several months. He told me. “This is our special secret.”
There, that’s the actual passage.
It’s a shirt. About pedophilia. It’s not funny. Offensive? Probably, but if it was about pedophilia, AND funny, then I’d laugh. This one is just not funny. That’s all. If it is true taht laughter cures pain, solves fears and exorcizes stupidity, then yes, you can laugh about everything, you SHOULD laugh about everything. Illness, pain, even death. By the way, doesn’t Death laugh at US?
The problem is, can you laugh with anyone? It’s tough. The presence of a practising Nazi for example, rarely puts me in a laughing mood. With a known child molester, I’m barely able to chuckle. The point is, I’d rather make jokes about the Holocaust with a survivor, than play Scrabble with Klaus Barbie.
come on it’s just a shirt get over it
YOU PEOPLE ARE AMAZING.
abuse is an somethingawful. You hear over9000 stories on teh interwebs and it is the sickening. Insted of making somethingawful of a shrit, they should make on that inspyres how a father is never going to give them up, nor let them down, desert them, or make them cry, or say goodbye, especially never tell a lie, and hurt them.
Being gay is no more natural than being a pedophile. First off, you aren’t born with any sexual preference, at puberty you discover it. A man was made to impregnate a female, and a female’s body was made to become pregnant by a male.
According to your environment, and the way you were raised you’re sexual preference can be perverted to make you desire to be with a child or of the same sex.
First off: Of all the things to post with mangled English in them, this definitely was not particularly funny.
Secondly: The only funny thing is that these comments prove that anonymity allows people to say things they would never say in person.
Thirdly: Did you seriously want to choose this of all mediums to discuss homosexuality??? People will never reconcile on it, agree to disagree and let it be.
I thought the comments were the funnies – then I reached the bottom and found out that they were genuine comments. Win win!
Yay Child Molestation!
Though I find the general concept of a mangled English passage on a shirt/bag/blanket/ect to be hillarious, in this particular instance, I can find nothing funny. I respect those who have been victims of child molestation who can laugh at this, but I can also understand why some would find this horrible and are strongly affected by it. I will not say that anyone who thinks this picture is funny is wrong (seeing as how I have a very dark sense of humour myself), I’m afraid that I cannot find hillarity within it. To JohnB, I thank you for taking such a strong stance in this, the world needs more people like you who are willing to coherently vocalize their opinions despite being constantly attacked.
wow this very sick
IS THIS ALL FINALLY OVER
God is for the gullable, if you were never even told about god then what would you think, you are just too lazy to think of something and you accept the first idea of our origin as fact. if you were told that ronald mcdonald created the universe as child, and you were told no different you would probably believe it.
That doesn’t mean the big bang is any better just we’re bored of the same religious crap, and science has a clean slate whereas religion is been there done that, and with all the death n shiz it, all our ‘knowledge’ is kinda made up. infinity was only deemed infinty when WE said so, before that it did not exist. ;P